Quote:Semantics is the study of meaning. The word "semantics" itself denotes a range of ideas, from the popular to the highly technical. It is often used in ordinary language to denote a problem of understanding that comes down to word selection or connotation. This problem of understanding has been the subject of many formal inquiries, over a long period of time. The word is derived from the Greek word σημαντικός (semantikos), "significant",[1] from σημαίνω (semaino), "to signify, to indicate" and that from σήμα (sema), "sign, mark, token".[2] In linguistics, it is the study of interpretation of signs or symbols as used by agents or communities within particular circumstances and contexts.[3] Within this view, sounds, facial expressions, body language, proxemics have semantic (meaningful) content, and each has several branches of study. In written language, such things as paragraph structure and punctuation have semantic content; in other forms of language, there is other semantic content.[3]

Quote:I agree that it seems illogical to say that God 'died' on the cross, but we also say that we don't die, when we die, and that is just as illogical.

Quote:The word "death" is used in two main ways in the Bible. First, it is used<b> to describe the cessation of life</b>. Second, death is used <b>in reference to the lost</b>. This refers to their eternal separation from God as a result of sin (Isaiah 59:2), in a conscious state of damnation without hope (1 Thess. 4:13; Rev. 20:10,14,15).
Death to humans is unnatural. When God created Adam and Eve, death was not part of the created order. It was not until they sinned that death entered the scene (Rom. 5:12; 6:23). Death will be destroyed when Christ returns and the believers receive their resurrected bodies.

Quote:I am not confused whether Jesus is one person or two. I was asking whether he died as human or God, so your answer was that he did die as <b>one person</b>, <b>human and God </b>at the same time. Is that very hard for you to utter or am I incorrect in my conclusion?

Quote:- Jesus is the Word, which was with God which was <b>GOD</b>, so Jesus is not simply <i>a divine being</i>, but also <b>GOD HIMSELF </b>according to the gospel of John. And that GOD/WORD died on the cross.

Quote:Amen. Amen. Amen. I wholeheartedly agree... I'm just not sure whether yo're arguing for or against this truth :confused_smile:

Quote:you have given us your views plainly, that Jesus Christ, who is God Almighty Himself died. And I thank you for your efforts in explaining your views.
No more arguments from my side.

Quote:You may be an ambassador to England or France,
You may like to gamble, you might like to dance,


You may be the heavyweight champion of the world,


You may be a socialite with a long string of pearls


But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed


You're gonna have to serve somebody,


Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord


But you're gonna have to serve somebody. -Bob Dylan

Quote:Bismillah: Assalamo Alikum.
FHC


At least we have come to an end concerning this topic. Whether this make sense to me or not, it doesn’t matter. What matter is that you have given us your views plainly, that Jesus Christ, who is God Almighty Himself died. And I thank you for your efforts in explaining your views.


No more arguments from my side.

Quote:In the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, One God, forever. Amen.
Do I detect a hint of mockery in your statement? Wael, you have an amazing gift (or curse), in that you are able to belittle the most wonderous truths! I can't help but recall St Matthew 7:6 "Do not give dogs what is holy; and do not throw your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under foot and turn to attack you."


Take care!

Quote:Again, it isn't about a God who died, it is about a God who humbled himself. The alpha and the omega. The proud and humble. The punisher and forgiver. The alive and dead. The flesh and the spirit. The godly and the human. Jesus represents all the extremes in balance.

Quote:Well, my question was about the God who died. Maybe we can start a new thread where we can talk about the God who humbled himself.
Salam


Wael.

Quote:And if you would know God, be not therefore a solver of
riddles. Rather look about you and you shall see Him playing


with your children.


And look into space; you shall see Him walking in the


cloud, outstretching His arms in the lightning and descending


in rain. You shall see Him smiling in flowers, then rising


and waving His hands in trees.-Kahlil Gibran