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Bible for Children - Muslimah - 08-04-2009
Bismillah
Kathie, you are most welcome to raise points, if you are under the impression that Islam lacks sexual ethics, Pls start new thread and ask questions. Insh a Allah we will be more than happy to answer them :). mattar of fact, this will be a good topic, I dont think we covered it here and is certainly worth discussion.
Bible for Children - wel_mel_2 - 08-04-2009
Bismillah: Assalamo Alikum.
<b>FHC</b>
Quote:I take it your daughter has the same mind as you.
You have been so disrespectful to me more than once already. Ignoring your insults doesn’t mean that I will allow you to continue your unnecessary comments. I don’t really care about your childish remarks, however, I am also a moderator on this board and according to the forums’ rules, you may not provoke any member, specially admis and moderators, so Consider this as a warning Kathie, next time your post will either be edited, deleted or you might get banned. Thanks for understanding and try to focus on the topic.
Quote:I won't tell you how to raise your children or attack Islam's sexual ethics (or lack there of), & I'd appreciate it if you refrained from interferring in my home or spiritual life.
I don’t interfere in your personal or spiritual life, this is a public forum where discussion is open for everybody, so if my questions are bothering your <i>‘home or spiritual life’</i>, just ignore this topic.
Salam
Wael.
Bible for Children - Steve Consilvio - 08-04-2009
Neither of you understand George Bernard Shaw correctly. He was not condemning the Bible, God or moral standards. I am not familiar with that quote, but given the context of his other writings, what he probably meant was that the Bible was dangerous to the hypocritical leaders, who claim it says one thing when it actually says another.
We see the same thing in Islam, when woman become educated about what the Koran actually says, and it is the exact opposite of what the men say it says. Unfortunately, people lie in this world. They say things that are not true because they feel that it serves them in some way. And the lust for money and power is as old as time.
Quote:“No man ever believes that the Bible means what it says: He is always convinced that it says what he means.”George Bernard Shaw
Substitute Koran, Torah, the Constitution, the Communist Manifesto, etc., it makes no difference. What Shaw was talking about is 'confirmation bias.' You are taking it literally because it confirms what you want it to say. It wasn't an attack on the Bible, it was an attack on hypocrisy.
Jesus was killed by the hypocrites. Muhammad needed to flee from the hypocrites. The Hebrews were enslaved by hypocrites. Every nation was founded by hypocrites. Orwell called hypocrisy doublethink. Native Americans called it speaking with a split tongue. Jesus constantly warned against hypocrisy and the yeast of pharisees, which worked through the whole bread. Osama bin laden and al Zahwari are good examples of Muslim hypocrisy. Hypocrisy knows no limits or bounds, but it always has one thing in common: somewhere, somehow, the ten commandments have been abandoned.
To return to the seen and unseen for a moment. When you hear and see the exact opposite of reality, that is hypocrisy. When you call the good as bad, and call the bad as good, that is hypocrisy. That fact that neither of you properly understood the Bernard Shaw quote is a reflection of your own, but different, hypocrisy.
Of course, perhaps I am the hypocrite. But one thing is sure, wherever there is disagreement and confusion there is hypocrisy.
Beware the mirror.