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Racism On This Forum - Anybody - 07-18-2004
Quote: <b>no Ibn his death is pretty much justified .. simply because he apposed allah and islam by contributing vitally in the war against islam and muslims.</b>
allah said in his holy quraan :-
((fight them ( THE enemy ) allah tortures them by your hands and by the hands of the believers .))
http://www.islamsms.com/bb/index.php?s...opic=1658&st=30
<b>US ARMY AND EVERY ONE SUPPORTING THEM OR HELPING THEM ON THEIR WAR AGAINST ISLAM ARE APPOSING ALLAH AND HIS PROPHET.</b>
http://www.islamsms.com/bb/index.php?s...opic=1658&st=30
<b>Muslimah arguing on beheading:</b>
You are condemning the act and not providing the alternative.
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<b> More of Abeer's greatest hits:</b>
1# yes he's a jew isn't he ? and why would a jew go to iraq( all time enemy land) risking his life ??!!
<b>I love Martyrdom Operations. </b>
Got Problem?????
What happpened in usa (9/11) are Martyrdom Operations
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I'll post more after work
Assalamu Alaikum br. I did not read suggestions of you.
But i realy dont think a wisemuslim strive to be racist.
I dont thinky any admin or mod has racist thoughts..We should have ummah thoughts, help in ecnomicaly, by faith, knowledge and by suffers.
It is possible some muslims can be a racist..We cant choose our race.By Alllah count taqwa as you know sure.
I think you should not suggest to be racist to admins or mods.
it is only my comment, with limited knowledge. I will only remember you, i m sure you have much knowledge than me..wassalam
Racism On This Forum - radiyah - 07-18-2004
I would like to make your attention brother anybody that Hazam is not a muslim, he is attacking Islam and Muslims, and that is why he is trying to show how Muslims are racist. And if u read sister Muslimah's post u will know that he was banned. And no1 has knowledge more than any1. So anything u know just write it down and have trust in yourself
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brother, after puting your trust in Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala and asking his aid, and Only Allah is the All knowing . Wa Jazzak Allah khayr for your post Wasalam
Racism On This Forum - Anybody - 07-19-2004
Quote: I would like to make your attention brother anybody that Hazam is not a muslim, he is attacking Islam and Muslims, and that is why he is trying to show how Muslims are racist. And if u read sister Muslimah's post u will know that he was banned. And no1 has knowledge more than any1. So anything u know just write it down and have trust in yourself
Wasalam
i dont knew he is non muslim.
wassalam
Racism On This Forum - Dan - 07-20-2004
Bismillah
As far as races go in science, they do not even really exist. It is impossible to clearly delineate where one race ends and another begins. It is due to this problem of categorization that anthropologists no longer really recognize race in the classic sense. At least, this is what I was taught in college anthropology.
Peace
Racism On This Forum - radiyah - 07-20-2004
Quote: Bismillah
As far as races go in science, they do not even really exist. It is impossible to clearly delineate where one race ends and another begins. It is due to this problem of categorization that anthropologists no longer really recognize race in the classic sense. At least, this is what I was taught in college anthropology.
Peace
Al-salam 'alaykom
U r right brother, eventually we are all brothers and sisters in race, and our race ends up to our father Adam, and our mother Eve, (PBUT).
waslam 'alaykom wa rahmat Allah
Racism On This Forum - Peace in Ireland - 07-20-2004
Correctamundo Danny Boy. Anthropologists tried to classify people into races. They usually ended up with four or five, each having their own specific traits and what not. They were usually Caucasian(White), Negroid(Black), Amerind(American Indians/Latinos), and Malay(Asians). But all that logic crap got in the way and serious scientists gave it up. As far as racism goes in relation to the Arab (muslim) and Jew (secular and religious) conflict, people on both sides hold too steadfastly to the idea that a persons race determins his enemy status. Since Jews mainly breed with Jews and Muslims with Muslims, it is an obvious outcome that ideological lines run in tandem with racial lines. A more progressive means of debate would not be to attack the other side on racial grounds with ideology as a secondary point, but to realize that humans are the products of their envirenment and thus, a debate on purely idealistic grounds would be far more desireable. Not convinced a Jew could be persuaded to agree with the Muslim argument (or vise versa)? Take a look at American race relations. In a country where the only free people used to be Whites, there are now countless Whites who agree and support the positions of the old "enemy." Many Whites now admire W.E.B. DuBois, Malcom X, Dr. Martin Luther King, Cesar Chaves, and so forth.
It also helps to look at yourself from an outsider's prospective. An Irish Catholic living in Boston probably doesn't see the slightest difference between the Jews in the middle east and the Muslims (except for those delicious latkas the Jews have. Simply... delicious.) Imagine if both Jews and Muslims approached the issue from an Irish-Catholic standpoint. They would see no inherant racial difference and thus, would be able to negotiate amongst each other as simply humans, not Jews and Muslims.
Anywho, think about it. Another good book to check out regarding the fluidity and utter rediculousness of race is "White By Law" by Ian F. Haney-Lopez. Shaba-daba-doo, I'm out.
Racism On This Forum - Muslimah - 07-21-2004
Well peacee boy
The problem with non Muslims who come to this board or any other board is that they see Muslims being racist when they abide by Quran and Sunnah. As such this will simply take us to the point of we believe u dont. We have no problem with u not believing it is u who have a problem with us believeing. In Islam, Allah Say in Quran :"O mankind! We have created you from a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that you may know one another. Verily, the most honourable of you with Allah is that (believer) who has At-Taqwa [i.e. one of the Muttaqun (pious). Verily, Allah is All-Knowing, All-Aware." (Quran 49:13)
Got that, hope u did because also I am out of here
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Racism On This Forum - lifutushi - 07-21-2004
Assalamualaykum.....
peace of ireland.... sorry i've to correct you about one thing... not every muslim is arab... i know you knew this already, but it seemed that every non-muslim had their mind set that muslim=arab. i'm a malay, born as muslim. majority of malays in my place are muslims. when you talk about muslims, please broaden your horizon all over the globe....... so that you are not a racist....
Wallhu'alam...
Racism On This Forum - Dan - 07-22-2004
Bismillah
Agreed. Arabs are only 18% of the total muslim population.
There are jews in Isreal who hate what is being done to the muslims. There are even Arab jews but they are treated like second class citizens by the white jews. It makes you realize that what PII said is true in actuality. It is not a race war but rather a war of ideologies. It is portrated in the contect of race because it is easier to present the conflict in such a fashion. When you examine the other factors like the ones I just stated, the issue becomes too complex, or so the media thinks. The dumbing down of Americans does not come from themselves but rather how the powers that be view Americans. When protesting the Vietnam war, most think that the college educated were in the majority of opposing the war. In actuality, it was the less educated and poorer people who protested it the most. Makes one reflect on the education system.
Peace.
Racism On This Forum - Peace in Ireland - 07-24-2004
Howdy.
Yes, I'm very aware that not all Muslims are Arab, but the word seems to be used somewhat interchangebly on this board so I thought I'd just stick with the common terminology used here. Anyway, yeah, muslims come in all flavors.
As far as what Muslimah said, about what I view as racist, she views as simply following the Qu'ran, both are true. One can follow a pure ideology and still be racist. For instance, if I see a suspicious person wandering around my neighborhood, the Neighborhood Watch compells me to call the police. However, since Blacks are often singled out as being "suspicious" and this make up the vast number of suspicious persons claims, I am partaking in a racist action by simply following the law. For a more extreme case of following the rules and being racist at the same time, see Eichmann.
THis is not to say that Islam teaches racial hate or hostility. "Racism" simply means having a non-critical racial element. Much as "Capitalism" means having Capitalist elements; Capitalism does not mean a hatred of Capitalists. Hope that clears things up a tad. Another good read: "Critical White Studies" by Richard Delgado and Jean Stefancic.