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Why Are So Many Women Converting To Islam ? - Dan - 10-27-2004


Bismillah


As Salam alaikum


In Islam we should not curse people but rather ask Allah to Guide them. Let us get this thread back on track or it might have to be locked to prevent further digression from the topic and further regression in attitude.


Rehmat, please lay off of ronniv93. Your methodology is not extending the hand of Islam to others but rather increasing the gap. We all must ask ourselves when trying to give da'wah, Is this what the prophet would condone? Would I behave in such a manner if he was watching me? If it is not then, KNOW that ALLAH is most certainly seeing us all and the manners in which we convey HIS religion.


Sis J, Jazaki Allah for your input because I have always wondered about this 1:4 statistic myself. Anyone else have pertinent information or insight?


As Salam alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatu




Why Are So Many Women Converting To Islam ? - Rehmat - 10-27-2004


To Dan


I know what the Prophet (pbuh) did and would have done in such cases. I don't need someone, who has not the experience or dealt with the 'Israeli hackers' on most of the Muslim website. I already have exposed this 'chap' on three other Muslim website. Such people either pretend to be Christians (to further enmity among the Christians and Muslims) or 'an Atheist' (so they can throw all kind of insults on my beloved Prophet). If you read Holy Qur'an you will find out that Allah warned the Believers about Jews than Christians.


If the guy was 'Christian through Christian' as he pretended - How come he could not curse the very people who are persecuting Christians the most at the present time. Re. Martin Luther, the Founder of the second largest Christian denomination - Protestant Church did [Image: blink.gif]


In case you want to waste your time with 'professional hackers' - That's fine with me - Because I don't spend my many hours on internet to add more people to 1.5-billion-strong Muslim which is already in mess - But to defend my religion against Western and Jewish lies.


So, you do your work and let me do mine. However, I don't mind REPEATING that these so-called 'Christians' stay on the track - THE TOPIC.




Why Are So Many Women Converting To Islam ? - umm Zachariah - 10-27-2004


Assalamu aleikum,


Thank you brother Dan for bringing our attention to 'why we are here' on this thread and what is the topic to discuss.


One reason why women convert to Islam - womens rights in Islam.


* The Prophet of Islam, SAAWS, put the greatest emphasis in his religious sermons and practical lessons to upgrade the position of women to a respectable partner in life.


* He declared to treat members of one's household with kindness.


* He defined the rights of daughters, wives and mothers and demanded that they should be given affection and love, consideration and respect.


* He stressed again and again the reward in the Hereafter for the one who would bring up daughters, with love and kindness, the greater the number the greater the reward.


* He said that Paradise lay under the feet of one's mother.


* He gave the glad tiding of Paradise to those who would look after their daughters well and would not feel ashamed of them or discriminate against them.


The rights bestowed on womenfolk in Islam.


* Right of Inheritance, The Qur'an 4:7, 4:11


* Right of Consent before Marriage


* Right of Mehr (Dower) 4:4, 4:20


* Right of Freedom of Speech


Wasalam




Why Are So Many Women Converting To Islam ? - Muslimah - 10-27-2004


I am not sure should I say As salam alykom Rehmat or what


i wonder why have u been using shalom after our salam. I think we must not, if because u r addressing a non Muslim u may simply say peace, but not shalom. I am not going to delet all of them.


But I will share what Dan already told u, lay your hands off ronniv.


Alhamdulelah Allah Allowed us in this forum to adopt a certain methodology that we are not by the Will of Allah ready to change.


U dont need to use a challenging tone to be calling to Allah, only if u dont have enough argument. We may discuss peacefully. And u dont also need to bring threads and Muslim forums to personal debates. We are not ready to personalize the forum.


so pls try to go back to the proper track of learning, discussing, we are actually here to learn and help others learn.


And thank u for trying to expose the truth. but again we dont use such language with each other. U dont have to act arrogant with members on the board. U r not the only one who is carrying the grief for this ummah.


And Alhamdulelah we are doing our work and u can still do yours.


Hope u see my point and stop using shalom




Why Are So Many Women Converting To Islam ? - Rehmat - 10-27-2004


Hmmmm!


“I am not sure should I say As salam alykom Rehmat or what.”


Well, I am open to your choice. I will take any greeting which comes with goodwill.


”i wonder why have u been using shalom after our salam.”


Can you point-out just ONE post where I have responded to someone ending his/her post with Salaam?


“I think we must not, if because u r addressing a non Muslim u may simply say peace, but not shalom.”


Why not? “Shalom” in Hebrew is exactly equivalent of “Salaam” in Arabic – meaning “Peace”. Yes, I would not say, “Asslam-o-Aliakum Wa Rehmat Allah” to a non-Muslim, because that’s prohibited by the Prophet (pbuh).


“I am not going to delet all of them.”


That’s your “privilege” – I understand.


”But I will share what Dan already told u, lay your hands off ronniv.”


I have nothing to “collect” from that guy on this forum. We meet a dozen times each day. But are you “threatening me, dear? If so, let me end this post by Dive saying:


SAY; I WILL NOT WORSHIP WHAT YOU WORSHIP – AND YOU WILL NOT WORSHIP WHAT I WORSHIP.


Wa Salaam.




Why Are So Many Women Converting To Islam ? - umm Zachariah - 10-27-2004


Salaam,


I am going to be very forward, since I don't like confusion.


Rehmat it would be better if you reveal who you are, because some of your answers are a bit confusing. You have said you were raised as a Muslim and you have gone to learn Christianity for some years and you sign sometimes with Shalom. And that makes it rather confusing. The question is not what is 'right' or what is 'wrong' the question is to come forward in an honest way. Like Islam teaches. And we are all here attending an Islamic forum, so it would be polite to approach in the Islamic way.


If you are a brother then tell us straight out that you are, and if you are not, it is ok too, only so we know 'who is who'. It makes discussing much more relaxed and benefitting.


With the best intention,


Wasalam




Why Are So Many Women Converting To Islam ? - Rehmat - 10-27-2004




Quote:Salaam,
I am going to be very forward, since I don't like confusion.


Rehmat it would be better if you reveal who you are, because some of your answers are a bit confusing. You have said you were raised as a Muslim and you have gone to learn Christianity for some years and you sign sometimes with Shalom. And that makes it rather confusing. The question is not what is 'right' or what is 'wrong' the question is to come forward in an honest way. Like Islam teaches. And we are all here attending an Islamic forum, so it would be polite to approach in the Islamic way.


If you are a brother then tell us straight out that you are, and if you are not, it is ok too, only so we know 'who is who'. It makes discussing much more relaxed and benefitting.


With the best intention,


Wasalam

Your question is not much different than the Moderator of a 'Salafi website' asked me after I posted more than 100 posts, explaining that the Muslim Ummah has more enemies (Sectarians) within than outside. His 'straight-forward question' was - Are a Shia? When I replied to him that no; I am neither Shia; nor Sunni (though I am born in a Hanafi family); nor Salafi; nor Wahhabi; nor Qadiani - But just a Muslim, who tries to follow the Seerah of the Prophet (pbuh). And the Moderator called me: 'You are Shia and Kafir!'


Now concerning my Christian schooling - I am very proud of that - Just like Sir Sayyid Ahmad - Because it gave me 100 more reasons to be a Muslim. And don't get surprised, if I confide in you that I learned Judaism and Hinduism too - And my little girl just graduated from a Catholic High school, in Canada.


And where I got my 'arrogance' is by a humble student od Sayyid Abu Ala Maududi (d. 1979) and reader of Imam Hassan Al-Banna, Sayyid Qutb, and Imam Khomeini. Is that okey with you?


Wa Salaam




Why Are So Many Women Converting To Islam ? - umm Zachariah - 10-27-2004


Assalamu aleikum,


My question seems to differ a bit if you try to compare it with some scenario of someone else that you describe. I did not say you are that or that, I asked if you could reveal yourself, that is a bit different.


What is ok for me is not really the issue. I am just one of the guests on this forum just like you are, but I try to live like I learn, just as you also said that you struggle to follow the path of our beloved Prophet, SAAWS and that I think is the intention of all of us here. We have much to learn from his Sunnah. It will keep us on the Sirat al Mustaqim.


So humbleness as you mention in your context in another meaning, is of course a very good approach to creating understanding and tranquility. And then we can have the possibility to learn more of our path in such an environment.


Wasalam




Why Are So Many Women Converting To Islam ? - Rehmat - 10-27-2004


Can you explain what you mean by that?


"So humbleness as you mention in your context in another meaning, is of course a very good approach to creating understanding and tranquility. And then we can have the possibility to learn more of our path in such an environment."


Are you saying that I should become apologetic and self-denial or act like I was commanded:


"If you see something wron, change it with your hand (force). If you cannot do that, speak out against it (that's what I am doing on several websites). If you cannot speak against it, then hate it in your heart (that could make me an anti-Semite in America) - but that's the lowest level of faith." [Image: blink.gif]




Why Are So Many Women Converting To Islam ? - umm Zachariah - 10-27-2004


Assalamu aleikum,


First you ask me to explain and then you also give me your explanation. Just give me the chance I will try to explain, in my own words.


The humbleness came from what you wrote ''And where I got my 'arrogance' is by a humble student od Sayyid Abu Ala Maududi (d. 1979) and reader of Imam Hassan Al-Banna, Sayyid Qutb, and Imam Khomeini.''


You explained you got your attitude from either ' a humble student' or meaning that you your self was 'a humble student'. And that could mean that humbleness has turned into something else. I am not quite following you what you mean, but anyway my point was that I focused on the word 'humble' that I think is a good quality for a Muslim, and that goes for everyone of course.


So your suggestion that I tell you to be still and not speak is not what I wrote. We seem to be speaking of two different things.


If one try to practice humbleness in combination with speaking up ones mind and telling the truth, I don't think that is any lesser way to do it. 'Forcing' things may not be the best way. Just a reflection from my part.


Wasalam