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The Instruction - WITNESS THE REAL - 09-21-2006
Quote:Bismillah:
If you are <b>not a Prophet</b>, then what kind of <b>“new revelation”</b> are you talking about? How will God send a revelation to someone who is <b>not a Prophet?</b> and if Prophet Muhammad pbuh was indeed the <b>seal of all Prophets</b>, then <b>why should we listen to what you have brought in the first place? </b> What you have brought is nothing but <b>LIE</b>. and you know what? The above contradiction of your own statements proves that you are <b>a lair</b>. <b>or mad person</b>.... <b>And I still insist on banning you.
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Salam
Wael.
I am a witness of Allah and what lie will you say I have told. Let Allah be a WITNESS between me and you. There was no contradiction in my statement, read it again and then perhaps after you see that there was no contradiction you will also see that there is no lie.
Pray about it. Is there anything better than praying? Pray and do not resist without praying first and if you pray and ask Allah He will reveal to you the truth and even if you ask 5 times He will reveal it 5 times for God is the best of planners.
The Instruction - WITNESS THE REAL - 09-21-2006
Quote:BismAllah ..
Salaam Alaikum
This member 'witness the real' apparently belongs to the Qadiani sect or some similar cult. They are the only ones who do not consider Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) to be the the Seal of the Prophets (nauzbillah). For this reason they have been ex-communicated from the Muslim community in South Asia. It is typical of Qadianis to try to minimize the importance of the Prophet (pbuh) so that they can draw maximum attention of their false and phoney apostles. 'Witness the real' is discreetly trying to preach this idea. Allah (The Most High) is sufficient to deal with such miscreants.
I have repeatedly said that Mohammad is the seal of the prophets and that I am not a prophet. I said I am the witness of the Utmost High God. May Allah reveal the truth.
The Instruction - wel_mel_2 - 09-21-2006
Bismillah:
Quote:I am a witness of Allah and what lie will you say I have told. Let Allah be a WITNESS between me and you. There was no contradiction in my statement, read it again and then perhaps after you see that there was no contradiction you will also see that there is no lie.
Yes you did contradict yourself. you said you are <b>not a Prophet</b>, and yet <b>you have recieved some kind of revelation from God</b>.. how did you receive a revelation from God without being a Prophet or a messenger of God?
where is sister Muslimah????
Salam
Wael
The Instruction - WITNESS THE REAL - 09-21-2006
Quote:Bismillah:
Yes you did contradict yourself. you said you are <b>not a Prophet</b>, and yet <b>you have recieved some kind of revelation from God</b>.. how did you receive a revelation from God without being a Prophet or a messenger of God?
where is sister Muslimah????
Salam
Wael
ALLAH judges no nation that has not been sent a messenger to warn them. See the meaning of witness below
wit·ness (wtns) KEY
NOUN:
One who can give a firsthand account of something seen, heard, or experienced: a witness to the accident.
One who furnishes evidence.
Something that serves as evidence; a sign.
Law
One who is called on to testify before a court.
One who is called on to be present at a transaction in order to attest to what takes place.
One who signs one's name to a document for the purpose of attesting to its authenticity.
An attestation to a fact, statement, or event; testimony.
One who publicly affirms religious faith.
That is what ALLAH has told me that I am. I am not a prophet, see the meaning of prophet below
proph·et (prft) KEY
NOUN:
A person who speaks by divine inspiration or as the interpreter through whom the will of a god is expressed.
A person gifted with profound moral insight and exceptional powers of expression.
A predictor; a soothsayer.
The chief spokesperson of a movement or cause.
I hope these definitions have cleared up any confusion. If you study the Quaran you will see from the countless examples that there must be someone who would get a divine revelation in english as it is the language of the United States and no nation can be judged without a messenger coming to it first, this is all scriptural.
You have spoke many things against me, but you have not confronted me with reason. Pray and ask ALLAH to give you a sign and see for yourself. otherwise, if you do not pray then you may never know.
The Instruction - Dan - 09-21-2006
Bismillah
It is all very clear
"A person who speaks by divine inspiration or as the interpreter through whom the will of a god is expressed.
A person gifted with profound moral insight and exceptional powers of expression. "
You said that you have recieved a new revelation from Allah ('aoothu billah), a new book, divine inspiration, "written by the finger of God on your heart." THIS IS THE DEFINITION OF A PROPHET THAT YOU PROVIDED.
I pray each day that i am protected from false messiahs and Alhamdulillah, not only can I see your falsehood but it is so horrible that my computer practically stinks from your filthy lies.
YOU need to go pray. ISLAMICALLY.
The Instruction - WITNESS THE REAL - 09-22-2006
Quote:Bismillah
It is all very clear
"A person who speaks by divine inspiration or as the interpreter through whom the will of a god is expressed.
A person gifted with profound moral insight and exceptional powers of expression. "
You said that you have recieved a new revelation from Allah ('aoothu billah), a new book, divine inspiration, "written by the finger of God on your heart." THIS IS THE DEFINITION OF A PROPHET THAT YOU PROVIDED.
I pray each day that i am protected from false messiahs and Alhamdulillah, not only can I see your falsehood but it is so horrible that my computer practically stinks from your filthy lies.
YOU need to go pray. ISLAMICALLY.
I received a revelation as a witness and not a prophet, have you read "WITNESS THE REAL" ?
The Instruction - Muslimah - 09-22-2006
Bismillah
I m here Wael.
The Instruction - Dan - 09-22-2006
Bismillah
"As rose by any other name..."
You can call yourself Jack Sprat but if you have a "message" then you are a messenger.
Would you call someone a messenger if they arrived at your house with no message? No. If someone calling himself a mechanic came to your house with a message, what would he be to you?
How can you not understand this? Oh yeah... I know why...
The Instruction - Muslimah - 09-22-2006
Bismillah
Dan as u can see everyone is supporting your call to ban him, shall I ?
Only Suhail is not on this thread.
I dont mind banning him. shall I?
The Instruction - WITNESS THE REAL - 09-22-2006
Quote:Bismillah
"As rose by any other name..."
You can call yourself Jack Sprat but if you have a "message" then you are a messenger.
Would you call someone a messenger if they arrived at your house with no message? No. If someone calling himself a mechanic came to your house with a message, what would he be to you?
How can you not understand this? Oh yeah... I know why...
I did not say I was not a messenger I said I was not a prophet. The word prophet and messenger are not the same. When you have a message to give someone are you doing so as a prophet?