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Using Free will and Reason (and even science) - AhmedSyed - 07-16-2003
whisper,
you keep dening the fact that there is a unique languistic barrier in Arabic. Muslimah, Abu Noran, and Wel_Mel have told u why.
Look at this analogy, its as if u are comparing apples to oranges (english being apples and arabic being oranges) these languages have their differnece as well as their similarities. But when u transalate something, u end up crossing an odd barrier.
For example. In spanish u have the adjective after the noun
EXAMPLE: Spanish:el barco rojo.
English:the red boat.
I don't think english does the same; as u can clearly see.
English put the the adjective before the noun but in spanish it was vice versa.
And i'd like to quote Brother Wel_Mel, because of his superb comment
Wel_Mel: if you read the arabic bible you will find GOD there sayig We, OUR
Bingo, u see, it is Arabic. NOT religion.
The similarity is that both books are transalated in arabic.
Difference is that one is the Quran and the other is the Bible.
Quote:Don't duck the issue, the Qur'an is flawed beyond belief, this just happens to be a minor flaw.[/quote:9429d3d087]What "flaw"? i haven't seen a single one. Explain.
Using Free will and Reason (and even science) - AbuNoran - 07-16-2003
Quote:Abu, Bud!!Dodging the question as always.
Answer the question, why is Allah referred to as "WE" and "OUR" and not "I" and "My"?
"WE" means more than one.
"OUR" also means more than one.
And just to make it easier for you to understand, the English translation contains "WE" and "OUR", it's not Arabic, both terms mean more than one.
Explain Abu - Bud![/quote:d5a214944b]
As I said completely brain dead.
Using Free will and Reason (and even science) - Muslimah - 07-16-2003
Quote:Abu, Bud!!Explain Abu - Bud![/quote:84cdeab28f]
[b:84cdeab28f][/color:84cdeab28f]Whisper
for the 7th time only over one night u r violating the rules. U show no respect to no one. U r not even adopting a human manner leave alone Christian or Muslim.
and Suhail u really made me smile for the way u express yourself. But don't degrade yourself remember we are Muslims and the Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وسلم heard even worse than this. The Quran even prooves this saying what means:" <b><span>The hatered is expressed through their mouths and what their chests hide is even more"[/color:84cdeab28f][/b:84cdeab28f]</span></b><span> </span>
Using Free will and Reason (and even science) - Muslimah - 07-16-2003
ok Whisper here it goes
Alhamdulelah all of us Muslims in this forum adopted the attitude ordained on us by Quran in dealing with non Muslims. We certainly applied the verse commanind Mussa peace be upon him to speak kindly to Pharaon who claimed to be god. We also never humiliated, abused, or insulted u, regardless of your consistent unacceptable attitude. It was even a surprise to a non Muslim how were adopted tolerence. But actually it does not matter to us. However, when it comes that u have no respect to Islam, Allah, members, moderators, and human beings in general. And we keep being busy cleaning what u post.
[b:e4b42920b3]Based on the above mentioned, and in compliance with the rules which I doubt that u read. We are very pleased to tell u that u r booted out.[/b:e4b42920b3][/color:e4b42920b3]
Using Free will and Reason (and even science) - Ahmed Abdullah - 07-16-2003
Asalaamu alikum Brothers and Sisters
I thought it was quite here today! No more [i:efefb4a50a]Whispers[/i:efefb4a50a] in our ears!!
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Using Free will and Reason (and even science) - wel_mel - 07-17-2003
salam all.
i think its the right time to boot whisper. May Allah guide those who are seeking his way.
salam
wel_mel