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Scientific Miracles of The Quran. - Muslimah - 05-12-2004
Alhamdulelah Alhamdulelah Alhamdulelah
Last I want is to make AbuSerien upset:)
Look at the last post on the thread About the Noble Quran, if u find it useful, pls feel free to use it in your group Mash aAllah may Allah bless your effort and time, may Allah allow us all to devote our time and effort only to Him, Who is more worthy of that if it was not Allah.
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Scientific Miracles of The Quran. - Abohamza30 - 05-12-2004
(Assalam)
You know Sister, I am so pleased to see many people are dedicating their time here too to explain and answer as well. Islam have always found people to fend him whenever need come up, and this is a bless from Allah. We are living by his blesses on us which we cant count.
Islam is finely engineered by the greatest creator so that it keeps its balance through time. It has a big set of moral codes that gives it perserverance and existence throught history, it finds its way to people's hearts by just illuminating their hearts and keeps it enlighted. This is why Islam created a full system and way of life rather a faith only.
As Jhon Doe did in his past, he spent much money on cars,wommen and booz, I even did whatever is worse. Quran finally illuminated my heart and there I am giving little to my religion which deserves all I have.
Alhadmdolillah!
Your Brother in Islam,
Abu-Serien
Scientific Miracles of The Quran. - Muslimah - 05-12-2004
Masha Allah brother welcome back home:)
Scientific Miracles of The Quran. - Abohamza30 - 05-22-2004
Bismallah Arahman Araheem.
In 1925, an American astronomer by the name of Edwin Hubble, provided observational evidence that all galaxies are receding from one another, which implies that the universe is expanding. The expansion of the universe is now an established scientific fact. This is what Al-Quraan says regarding the nature of the universe:
With the power and skill Did We construct The Firmament: For it is We Who create The vastness of Space. [Al-Quraan 51:47]
The Arabic word msin is correctly translated as expanding it, and it refers to the creation of the expanding vastness of the universe. Stephen Hawking, in his book, A Brief History of Time, says, The discovery that the universe is expanding was one of the great intellectual revolutions of the 20th century.
The Quraan mentioned the expansion of the universe, before man even learnt to build a telescope! Some may say that the presence of astronomical facts in the Quraan is not surprising since the Arabs were advanced in the field of astronomy. They are correct in acknowledging the advancement of the Arabs in the field of astronomy. However they fail to realize that the Quraan was revealed centuries before the Arabs excelled in astronomy. Moreover many of the scientific facts mentioned above regarding astronomy, such as the origin of the universe with a Big Bang, were not known to the Arabs even at the peak of their scientific advancement. The scientific facts mentioned in the Quraan are therefore not due to the Arabs advancement in astronomy. Indeed, the reverse is true. The Arabs advanced in astronomy, because astronomy occupies a place in the Quraan.
There should be a question to ask that am not sure of:
Where does the sun rises every morning on Mars? Is it East or West? I wonder what does the recent findings/Pictures on Mars showed. I just HEARD from someone that it does show up in the morning from opposit direction to Earths, is there any evidence that this is true? and what does this Imply? Does any Brother/ Sister know more about this
Shukran!
(Assalam)
Scientific Miracles of The Quran. - Deen - 05-22-2004
(Assalam)
If we were to look at the time of Rasool [saw] when he first received revelation, he informed his close family and friends and they accepted the revelation to be haq (truth).
What was it that made them believe in the revelation? Was it muhammad (saw) as an individual or was it because they were convinced of it i.e. had Tasdeeq ul-Jaazim. According to my understanding, to follow this line of thought to prove the quran's miracle via science is not correct.
The way muslims should view the miracle of the quran is via the arabic language, as the miracle of the quran is the arabic language.
Allah (swt) has challenged and ridiculed the kufaar of doubting the truth of the Quran.
Say: "If the mankind and the jinns were together to produce the like of this Qur'ân, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they helped one another." [Qur'ân 17:88]
And if you (Arab pagans, Jews, and Christians) are in doubt concerning that which We have sent down (i.e. the Qur'ân) to Our slave (Muhammad Peace be upon him ), then produce a sûrah (chapter) of the like thereof and call your witnesses (supporters and helpers) besides Allah, if you are truthful. [Qur'ân 2:23]
And this Qur'ân is not such as could ever be produced by other than Allah (Lord of the heavens and the earth), but it is a confirmation of (the revelation) which was before it [i.e. the Taurat (Torah), and the Injeel (Gospel), etc.], and a full explanation of the Book (i.e. laws and orders, etc, decreed for mankind) - wherein there is no doubt from the the Lord of the 'Alamin (mankind, jinns,and all that exists).
Then Allah (SWT) challenges those who doubt the truth and reduces the challenge to 1 surah to mock them:
Or do they say: "He (Muhammad(P)) has forged it?" Say: "Bring then a sûrah (chapter) like unto it, and call upon whomsoever you can, besides Allah, if you are truthful!" [Qur'ân 10:37-38]
Or they say, "He (Prophet Muhammad(P)) forged it (the Qur'ân)." Say: "Bring you then ten forged sûrah (chapters) like unto it, and call whomsoever you can, other than Allah (to your help), if you speak the truth!" [Qur'ân 11:13]
Or do they say: "He (Muhammad(P)) has forged it (this Qur'ân)?" Nay! They believe not! Let them then produce a recital like unto it (the Qur'ân) if they are truthful. [Qur'ân 52:33-34]
If we look at the time of rasool (saw) poetry was considered to be noble and the arabs at that time were experts at high level arabic.
When the quran was revealed all the arabs were bumbfounded :eek: and were unable to produce nor match anything like it. Therefore, if it was written by man (who is weak and limited in nature), there would have been someone able to produce something like it but there hasn't and there never will.
"We know indeed that they say, 'It is a man that teaches him.' The tougue of him they wickedly point to is notably foreign, while this is Arabic, pure and clear. (The Noble Quran, 16:103)"
"Thus have We sent by inspiration to thee an Arabic Qur'an: that thou mayest warn the Mother of Cities and all around her,- and warn (them) of the Day of Assembly, of which there is no doubt: (when) some will be in the Garden, and some in the Blazing Fire. (The Noble Quran, 42:7)"
"And this is a Book which We have sent down, bringing blessings, and confirming (the revelations) which came before it: that thou mayest warn the mother of cities [Mecca] and all around her. Those who believe in the Hereafter believe in this (Book), and they are constant in guarding their prayers. (The Noble Quran, 6:92)"
Also, if we compare the grammer of the quran (Allah's speach) to the hadith (transmitted by man), they are completely different in terms of style of speach and structure. It is impossible for a human being to go throughout his life speaking with 2 styles as there would be contradictions and errors i.e. get caught-out basically!
We should approach this subject via the rational mode of thought rather than the scientific as the scientific does not take the reality into consideration (detaches the substance from it's natural environment) and has a pre-determined answer from which it bases it's experiments upon
I just feel that the western nations thought there was a struggle between religion and science and therefore seperated the both, that the same thing does not happen to Islam. If scientists were to prove a scientific fact from the quran in error of course, then what would we have to say about the quran?
Also, does this mean all muslims must learn or be educated in science to appreciate the miracle of the quran? Or do they just need a functional mind to appreciate it?
Hope the above makes sense and forgive me if I may have said anything in error as the intention was not to.
Scientific Miracles of The Quran. - Abohamza30 - 05-22-2004
(Assalam)
Thank you , Deen.
What this thread is meant for is not prove the Quran through Science, but to discuss the rational of Quranic Verses in foretelling scientific facts science have already proved.to make this clear I will give example: The prophet had many miracles, he used them to convince people with his message and The Animals guided people to his place and spoke in his time, which is an evidenced and authentic story that the prophet used to ADD to people's believes and to STRENGTHEN it as follow:
An old Beduin used to live outside Madina City was crusing with his animals into the desert, it happened and he faced a wolf that attacked one of his sheeps, he then stoned the wolf and got him away from his animal, The wolf spoke Immediately:Dont You Fear Allah??, you're preventing me from food that allah led to me???? the Shepherd was amazed: OH My God!! a wolf speaking me???? the wolf answered ,Furtherly, and do you know whats more amazing than this??? old man!!! go to Madinah City, Mohammad Son Of Abdullah is teaching people words of Allah!!!!! The man went to Madina and asked about Mohammad, the prophet that time had this man's story with him and knew what is already going to happen from Gabrael, the man entered the mosque, and before he say anything, the Prophet called him by His name-without knowing him from before- and Asked him to tell Moslems what he saw and heared from the wolf!!! This story is evidenced and witnessed by many people though niether Mohammad PBUH nor the shephered knew each other from before. Does this makes difference to you? Moslems believe in Mohammad and trust him 1000000% but the story made them all say La Ilaha Illa Allah!!!!..... this is it.... To strengthen and to show the power of Quraan and its verses!!! and it is meant to communicate this to others...no matter how simple it is!!!!!
So, this is to help others know about islam and what is on Quraan beside its language which is hard to figure by some Arabs though! And absolutely is not meant to prove Quraan By science. Quran is the Infallible word of God and is a miracle in itself, no corruption have ever succeeded to touch its words far or near...... But your point is correct if we are trying to experiment the verses and apply them to earthly standards of science, and No this is not what this thread is meant for, Sister
Thanks for your input.
Scientific Miracles of The Quran. - SisterJennifer - 05-22-2004
Asalaamu alikum,
I just wanted to point out that scientists are human and of course thier conclusions can be faulty as they are using human mind which is faulty and of course man is always is the state of learning.
I think that because the Quran was meant for all times and all people to understand, there are things such as the development of the embryo which the people during the time of the Prophet did not understand, and was really only discovered in the last century. There is even a textbook on embryotic delvelopment that is used is American Universities that uses the Quran as reference because of the accuracy of the desription. When you consider this was revealed over 1400 years ago, it makes you realize that who could have possibly known this other than the creator of mankind Himself?
For me personally, when I look to the scientific eveidence in the Quran it gives me a sense of humbleness, and makes me remember that all we have truly comes from Allah. Without a doubt the Quran is a book as no other.
Another thing I notice is that something that seems to really perk the intrest of non-Muslims is that when you point out these things that were written so long ago that we are only beginning to discover now, they are in awe, and many feel compelled to read the Quran.
I apologize if what I just said was redundant.
May Allah guide us all and forgive our shortcomings,
~Jennifer
Scientific Miracles of The Quran. - Ibn_kumuna - 05-22-2004
Salaam Alaikum!
Redundant, maybe; but it was food for thought.
--Ibn
Scientific Miracles of The Quran. - Abohamza30 - 05-23-2004
Bismillah Arrahman Arrahim,
Jhondoe
Two more things you need to remember as well:
First,We are not talking about Modern Hstory, Hazam adressed the Islamic wars times Mohammad PBUH and the following era, not the Black Crow's era when the USA embassy sieged by Iranian Revolutionists..... the families who flee after the Revolution were of previous support to US Policy inside Iran when the Shah refuged to Americans and they let him alone with his supportners of Inside... and they-like always- give up their allies and leave them when they no more need them-Very Materialistic!!!!.. they families you are talking about had Iranian-Iranian Conflict and is more ****e-Shiite Conflict rather Sunni Arab issue.....
The second is we as Moslems and Arabs see American Iranians and if feaible American Iranian Moslem Community as third Militia used to be an American allied force and the Americans wanted to pay some of he bill by permitting Orthodox Jews and Christians to come to USA as a step to their Moving to Israel the Promised place for jews and Jesus to come back to!!!! the same Happened with Pakistani Shiite Community-militia- in Karachi back in 60's which was trained by Britons to blow the Sunni leadership in there, and when they failed Britons opened their doors for all shiite as a make up for their suffering after they turned to be treators for their own country... soemthing explain to everybody why the majority of Pakistani Moslem in London is mainly shiite..... and you can yourself verify this by contacting Moslem community in England through their websites.... So,... before judging anybody I think you need to figure the full story..... and I am not talking about Christian Iranians by this..... But ofcourse Iranian jews and Chrisitans use the same reason to explain to US Embassy and departements to have a Green card to USA for better reasons.... many people of My country use the term oppression to clarify why they refuge to some European countries, though Jordanian regime is least oppressive in Middle East....... Ofcourse the better life is a good reason to Immigrate!!!!
Scientific Miracles of The Quran. - Abohamza30 - 05-23-2004
Bismillah Arrahman Arrahim
(Walikum)
No matter how redundant you are saying this, Sisterjennifer! May Allah bless you the Jannah!
Isnt it how Amazing how precise the Quranic Verses in describing Embryology? No Microscopes where there times our Nobel Prophet!!! and for more acucracy I would like to clarify soemthing: No Information was availabe about the embryogenesis the first 40 days of conception until 50 years ago when the electronic microscope was invented,However and Quranic Verses and Mohammad's PBUH hadith does clearly and precisely explain in stages how it developes the first 41-45 days inwhich the Leech-like structure is formed.... SubhanAllah!!!! This is what I mean by adressing these facts in here, is just to remind us how great Allah(God) is!!! isnt it Inspiring? doesnt this talk? The Quran speaks to human mind and stimulate it to think of why we are existing!!!!! ofcourse to worhsip Allah and build Earth!!!
Another Miracle of the Quran is about the preciosn of Quran in describing things happened Early in History is the destiny of the Pharoah(Menpthera) of Moses:
Allah says in Quran:
[Yunus 10:92] But We will this day deliver you with your body that you may
be a sign to those after you, and most surely
the majority of the people are heedless to Our communications.
vs.
[al-Qasas 28:40] So We caught hold of him and his hosts, then We cast them
into the sea, and see how was the end of the
unjust.
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[bani Isra'il 17:103] So he desired to destroy them out of the earth, but We
drowned him and those with him all together;
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[az-Zukhruf 43:55] Then when they displeased Us, We inflicted a retribution
on them, so We drowned them all together,
The Body of the Pharoah was discovered 205 years ago burried in Sand. Niether Mohammad nor anybody else on the world ever knew where he was burried:
The Quran does say he was drowned, and will be used as an example for all mankind to learn from his heedlessness. And here I would like to elaborate on two main facts which are:
His Body was discovered in Egypt 205 years ago, while he stayed under sands 4000 years almost, and he has been there 3200 years before the upcoming of Mohammad PBUH, The Quran describes his Death as by drawning, and that his body will be used as a sign for all mankind. My Question
have anybody seen his body in the British Museam in London?, he stayed in Cairo for decades and then Back to France where most of the worlds tourists go to!!! isnt this a foretold fact? Many people come to see him.... Moslems, Christians, jews,.. Buhdists........
[Yunus 10:92] But We will this day deliver you with your body that you may
be a sign to those after you, and most surely
the majority of the people are heedless to Our communications
The second fact is that Allah promised him as the Quran Indicate to CONSERVE his Body to make him the sign for ALL MANKIND:
"We shall SAVE you in YOUR BODY this day, so that you may become A SIGN to ALL POSTERITY".Quran (10:92)
The Anatomical studies done on his body showed that he was Mummuficated IMMEADIATELY and burried faster than any other Pharoah and this is why his body is Conserved and is not decayed like any other Mummificated Body ever found in the world!!! His body is Amazingly Conserved, he still have shiny scalp and whoever visit him in Paris now can see this by himself. The destiney of his body was explained Futherly by the Hadeeth of Prophet Mohammad PBUH : He was thrown ashore and his people took him and burried him.
Another Amazing precison of The Holly Quran that deserves mention...... No other book ever found on this planet matched what science proved in advance but the Quran!!! MashaAllah!!!
May Allah write our Ajr with this, Ameen!!
(Walikum)