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Racism On This Forum - spider - 07-06-2004


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Do NOT ever talk to me or address me like this again.


Do NOT ever tell me how to conduct my afairs.


Fear Allah and think before you talk and interfere with something that is not your business.


I will not ask you again, the fact that you are a Muslim is making me very lenient with you for such disrespect, but I will not let you disrecpect me like that again.


I was going to send a PM but since you rushed to act like this instead of sending a PM, then there you have it from me to you.

Asalaamu alaikum,


My sincere apologies - perhaps I was a bit harsh with my post. However I would like to make a few points if that is alright with you.


When something is said on a public forum, it is everyone's business.


If I see a Muslim brother lowering himself to name calling & arguing like a child, I will tell that brother how to conduct his affairs. The only reason I do this is because I FEAR ALLAH. You doubt a fellow Muslim's fear of Allah.


There are ways of dealing and speaking to non-Muslims :


An-Nahl:125-128


Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance.



And if ye do catch them out, catch them out no worse than they catch you out: But if ye show patience, that is indeed the best (course) for those who are patient.


And do thou be patient, for thy patience is but from Allah; nor grieve over them: and distress not thyself because of their plots.


For Allah is with those who restrain themselves, and those who do good


How did I disrespect you, brother? By telling it like it is? Do you deny that you were acting immaturely? Please, show me in this thread where your maturity and sabr have shone through.


As for sending PMs - I did not know this board offered that option. However, since I am a married sister I do not PM any brother (or anyone else for that matter).


Again, I admit I was harsh with my post and I apologise that you took offense. I have checked my behaviour and asked for forgiveness, will you not do the same?


-spider



Racism On This Forum - lifutushi - 07-06-2004


assalamualaykum....


My dearest Brothers.....


i would like to give my humble opinion from the shallow knowledge...


i think foul words and names are not a good thing...


i really love to read more on your posts, but please leave those bad words behind...


Wallahu'alam...



Racism On This Forum - Shereen - 07-06-2004


[Image: laugh.gif] subhan allah.........when in USA voilence is going on against Muslims specially Arabs & Middle Eastern ppl..........this isn't Racism?



In Israel no Muslim is allowed to enter their own homeland.......this isn't racism?


Bush killings of innocent kids & ppl............isn't racism


But yes only the beheading of the few is racism.........with the fact that WHO drove these ppl to beheading??? USA & it's allies.......who are there to watch the 'drama' of the sufferings of poor Msulims...........Bush who claims he's defending his future generations by waging a war on Iraq.......WHAT about the future of Iraq????? [Image: dry.gif]



Racism On This Forum - Hazams - 07-06-2004


Quote: [Image: laugh.gif] subhan allah.........when in USA voilence is going on against Muslims specially Arabs & Middle Eastern ppl..........this isn't Racism?

In Israel no Muslim is allowed to enter their own homeland.......this isn't racism?


Bush killings of innocent kids & ppl............isn't racism


But yes only the beheading of the few is racism.........with the fact that WHO drove these ppl to beheading??? USA & it's allies.......who are there to watch the 'drama' of the sufferings of poor Msulims...........Bush who claims he's defending his future generations by waging a war on Iraq.......WHAT about the future of Iraq????? [Image: dry.gif]

If you read the title of my thread it said "On this forum."


I take it that reading comprehension is not one of your strengths?



Racism On This Forum - Shereen - 07-06-2004

[Image: tongue.gif] i knew that........but i there seem to be 'some' ppl here......who are saying that Muslims are the ones who r racist


Racism On This Forum - Abunuran - 07-06-2004




Quote:assalamualaykum....
My dearest Brothers.....


i would like to give my humble opinion from the shallow knowledge...


i think foul words and names are not a good thing...


i really love to read more on your posts, but please leave those bad words behind...


Wallahu'alam...

lifutushi,


I will respect your wishes.


I just posted some relating information 2 days ago, but since no one bothers to read it and learn our rights before coming to attack me, tell me what's right from wrong and tell me how to speak to non-Muslims, here it is again, maybe someone will learn this time:


The choices that Allah (SWT) have given the believers in the Quran (part of the Law of equality), here they are:


Al-Baqara


[194] The prohibited month, for the prohibited month, and so for all things prohibited, there is the law of equality. If then any one transgresses the prohibition against you, transgress ye likewise against him. But fear Allah, and know that Allah is with those who restrain themselves.



Al-Hamdu ll'Allah, I do restrain myself with his (SWT) aid as you have no idea what the shaitan was telling me to write and how to reply to this RACIST who hates Islam and Muslims.


Ashoura


[36] Whatever ye are given (here) is (but) a convenience of this Life: but that which is with Allah is better and more lasting: (it is) for those who believe and put their trust in their Lord;



[37] Those who avoid the greater crimes and shameful deeds, and, when they are angry even then forgive;


[38] Those who hearken to their Lord, and establish regular prayer; who (conduct) their affairs by mutual Consultation; who spend out of what We bestow on them for Sustenance;


[39] And those who, when an oppressive wrong is inflicted on them, (are not cowed but) help and defend themselves.


[40] The recompense for an injury is an injury equal thereto (in degree): but if a person forgives and makes reconciliation, his reward is due from Allah: for (Allah) loveth not those who do wrong.


[41] But indeed if any do help and defend themselves after a wrong (done) to them, against such there is no cause of blame.


[42] The blame is only against those who oppress men with wrong-doing and insolently transgress beyond bounds through the land, defying right and justice: for such there will be a Penalty grievous.


[43] But indeed if any show patience and forgive, that would truly be an exercise of courageous will and resolution in the conduct of affairs.


[44] For any whom Allah leaves astray, there is no protector thereafter. And thou wilt see the wrong-doers, when in sight of the Penalty, say: "Is there any way (to effect) a return?"


In Ayah 37, Allah (SWT) said that when they are angry they forgive.


In Ayah 39, he (SWT) also describes them that they stand up firm when attacked and defend themsleves.


In Ayah 40, he (SWT) gives the right to respond back to an injury with an equal one, but also reminds them that whomever fogives, then his reward is up to Allah (SWT).


In Ayah 41, he (SWT) confirms the right to defend yourself and assures you that there is no blame on you when you do so.


In Ayah 42, he (SWT) explains to us who is to blamed and thier punishment.


In Ayah 43, he (SWT) tells us that being patient and forgiving is an exercise of courageous will and resolution in the conduct of affairs.


In Ayah 44, Allah (SWT) tells us that he (SWT) is our protector and whomever he (SWT) leaves astray, there is no protector for them.


I usually practice all those choices, depends on the situation.


Al-Hamdu ll'Allah, Allah (SWT) has given me enough knowledge and strength to jump to defend Allah (SWT), the Prophet (SAAWS) and his family, Islam and the women of Islam when they come under attack and I don't care what and who thinks of me when I do so.


Al-Hamdu ll'Allah, when it comes to some one attacking me usually I don't care and just be patient and let them.


Al-Hajj


[60] That (is so). And if one has retaliated to no greater extent than the injury he received, and is again set upon inordinately, Allah will help him: for Allah is One that blots out (sins) and forgives (again and again).



Mohammad


[7] O ye who believe! If ye will aid (the cause of) Allah, He will aid you, and plant your feet firmly.



To every Muslim & Muslimah:


If you don't want to aid the cause of Allah then do NOT inerfere with my duties.




Racism On This Forum - Abunuran - 07-06-2004




Quote:My sincere apologies

Accepted for Allah (SWT) sake, and then because you are a sister.


Argue with me all you want, but never disrespect me, as I will not let you or anybody else for that matter.



Racism On This Forum - Abunuran - 07-06-2004




Quote: <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Shereen" data-cite="Shereen" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="1726" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> [Image: laugh.gif] subhan allah.........when in USA voilence is going on against Muslims specially Arabs & Middle Eastern ppl..........this isn't Racism?

In Israel no Muslim is allowed to enter their own homeland.......this isn't racism?


Bush killings of innocent kids & ppl............isn't racism


But yes only the beheading of the few is racism.........with the fact that WHO drove these ppl to beheading??? USA & it's allies.......who are there to watch the 'drama' of the sufferings of poor Msulims...........Bush who claims he's defending his future generations by waging a war on Iraq.......WHAT about the future of Iraq????? [Image: dry.gif]

If you read the title of my thread it said "On this forum."


I take it that reading comprehension is not one of your strengths?

</div></blockquote>

Hey RACIST, is that your best??


Come on, show me what else is in your pocket, I got a lot more for you.



Racism On This Forum - Muslimah - 07-16-2004


as salam alykom brothers and sisters


with all due respect to u sister Spider, I didnt see a reason for this thread to be deleted, as for name calling, if I am not mistaken (pls all refer it to me if I didnt see all of them), I just edited a few here, if u consider Abu calling Hazam racist is name calling, well the latter started a thread accusing members here of racism and Abu is trying to tell him what he is doing as being a racist, but I think the thread is very informative, may be I do differ with Abunuran in some areas, but I see that Alhamdulelah the info he brought forth here is worth keeping and must be kept for Allah's sake, why would i delet facts that prove we had nothing to do with 9/11 regardless of those Muslims who brag about it. As for non Muslims if they still want to believe we did, or we are the one beheading people let them be. Obviously Hazam did not even understand my post I dont blame him, he simply does not want to understand. I still feel sorry for him, he is so much threatended to all of sudden realize there is Allah.


well the thread is kept Insh aAllah with some editing.


But Hazam is not here for a month


He is banned for name calling a sister on another thread.


May be Insh a Allah when he comes back he will think twice..


we dont expect anything else from him or any other non Muslim we must realize this ayah


"Many of the people of the Scripture <b>(Jews and Christians) wish that if they could turn you away as disbelievers after you have believed, out of envy from their ownselves, e</b>ven, after the truth (that Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم is Allah's Messenger) has become manifest unto them. But forgive and overlook, till Allah brings His Command. Verily, Allah is Able to do all things" (Quran 2:109)


Just keep this in mind Alhamdulelah for being Muslims



Racism On This Forum - Peace in Ireland - 07-18-2004


You are all racists. First of all, I think it bears pointing out that Muslims are not a race. Islam, is a religion. As a Race Relations student, I can say that neither Jews nor Muslims (or Arabs) are the exclusive racists. You all forget too often that Jewish blood is the same as Muslim blood. That the genetic difference between two chimpanzees of the same troop is greater than an unrelated Jew and a Muslim.


For a good starting point on what racism really is, I suggest "Critical Race Theory: An Introduction" by Richard Delgado and Jean Stefancic. Racism engulfs you all, and it's not necessarily your fault. But the sooner you realize it, the better.