Quote:Thanks Wel Mel.


I'll read your post when I have more time. And reflect or prove that you are completely wrong in everyway :P ...just kidding.


I look forward to reading it.

Quote:Ok, according to your own <i>'weird'</i> logic that killing <b>IN ALL CASES CONSIDERED TO BE SIN AND AN ACT OF DISOBEDIENCE TO THE CREATOR</b>. Then you have to tell me, how about <b>those people who have given the commandment that such and such should be killed? Are they considered according to you as sinners or they are absolutely sinless because they just didn’t commit the act of killing?</b>

Quote:Bismillah:


Ok let's continue insh'aAllah.


So did Jesus offer any solution for women who feel insecure with their husbands? God in Islam also hated divorce, it is considered to be the most <b>hateful permissible act in Islam</b>. But what would be the solution if both husband and wife could not live together anymore??? <b>What the solution in your Bible?</b>


I guess we have talked about this before, But what would be the solution if both husband and wife could not live together anymore??? <b>What the solution in your Bible?</b>. And since you believe that Jesus is <i>"God" </i> then you will not deny that verses of killing unbelievers of the Bible to be said by Jesus.


Therefore Jesus and Muhammad pbuh have done the same thing<b> (fighting falsehood and spreading the truth</b>)


I have never red those words in the last sermon of Prophet Muhammad, or maybe an not aware. could you please show me the reference?


Anyway, if you want to read the last Sermon of Prophet Muhammad Pbuh you may visit those websites:


Last Sermon


or


Muhammad pbuh the last messenger.


Doesn’t the Bible instruct the followers to divide the booty of war that they have seized from unbelievers?


Who instructed them? God Almighty which you believe to be “Jesus”.


Now open your Bible and read <b>Numbers 31:1- 51</b>


And you will notice the following points;


1- One thousand men from every tribe from the 12 tribes of Israel joined in the battle against the Midianites. (Numbers 31:4-5).


2- <b>A mass slaughter took place against all males (infants, children, grown men and elderly) and all non-virgin females </b> (Numbers 31:7,17-18).


3- <b>Eleazar took 50% of his men's share
</b> (Numbers 31:28-29).


4- Everyone ended up giving a sacrifice or <b>"gift to the LORD" </b> from their share. <b>So not only Eleazar took 50% of his men's share, which he gave some of it as a "gift to the LORD," but his men also had to pay a "gift" from their remaining 50% </b> (Numbers 31:52).


At least the Noble Quran mixed the needy and wayfarers with the Prophet's 20% share of the spoils of War. <b>Also, no need to mention that Prophet Muhammad was the most generous and gave most of his wealth to the poor and the needy. In many hadiths we find that Aisha may Allah be please with her informed us that many nights passed on them without anything for them to eat because they use to give all what they have to those in need.</b>


Show me <b>a single verse from the Qur’an </b> that says to <b>ATTACK any city that rejected Islam</b>.


Where ??


Am waiting


I will not repeat what I’ve said in the other thread regarding miracles. I have a feeling now that you don’t read my responses to your posts with care. Which is not so good. I already told you that miracles are not the test AT ALL to prove that this person is a Prophet or not.


yes you are totally wrong, Muhammad did so many miracles. and i will start new thread to show you <b>some</b> Miracles which were performed by Prophet Muhamamd.


Why can’t you verify and study the NT and try to come up with conclusion by yourself whether it is a miracle or <b>man made book</b>?


The Qur’an can stand the test of time. Any allegation that was made against the Qur’an was refuted. The Qur’an <b>challenges you or anyone who denies or doubts the source of the Qur’an to produce a chapter like it if you are truthful.</b>


But if ye cannot –<b>And of a surely you cannot</b>. Then fear the Fire whose fuel is Men and Stones – Which is prepared for those who reject Faith.” (Al-Qur’an 2:23-24)


and please note that the smallest chapter in the Qur'an (Chapter 108) is only ten words, yet no one has ever been able to meet this challenge, then or today. Some of the disbelieving Arabs who were enemies of the Prophet Muhammad tried to meet this challenge to prove that Muhammad (PBUH) was not a true prophet, but they failed miserably.


The Qur’an itself says that <b>am open for any challenges</b>. Here I am if you can find <b>a single fault in me</b>, then I will be proved wrong.<b> But who can meet that challenge CC? Can you challenge the Creator???</b> The greatest enemy of Islam <b>ABU LAHA WAS NOT ABLE TO MEET THE CHALLENGE. WILL YOU CC???</b>


<b>"If the Mankind and the Jinns were together to produce the like of this Qur'an, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they helped one another."</b>(Qur'an 17:88)


<b>ALLAHU AKBAR.</b>


Again, The Qur'an is<b>the miracle of all miracles.</b>


The Qur'an is <b>the most positive Book in the world.</b>


it is:


<b>1- A proclamation to humanity:
</b>


2- It is a fountain of Mercy and wisdom.


3- It is a warning to the heedless.


4- It is a guide to those in doubt.


5- It is a solace to the suffering.


6- And it is a hope to those in despair.


Salam.


Wael.


Bismillah:


You are just such a picky guy.


When I said Muhammad did commit sins, I meant mistakes which are unintentionally and not to disobey God. You just picked one sentence of my own words to contradict me.


Salam


Wael.

Quote:But what would be the solution if both husband and wife could not live together anymore??? <b>What the solution in your Bible?</b>

Quote:I guess we have talked about this before, the Bible also commanded the believers to fight the unbelievers in case of self defense. And since you believe that Jesus is "God" then you will not deny that verses of killing unbelievers of the Bible to be said by Jesus.

Quote:God creates the bond of Marriage. Simply "not liking eachother" is no reason. The Bible, therefore, does not provide an outlet for people who just want to give up. However, if a husband is abusive or somebody is unfaithful then that is different.

Quote:I am not sure what you are talking about here.

Quote:And he entered the city at a time when its people were not watching: and he found there two men fighting,- one of his own religion, and the other, of his foes. Now the man of his own religion appealed to him against his foe, and Moses struck him with his fist and made an end of him. He said: "This is a work of Evil (Satan):
for he is an enemy that manifestly misleads!" Surah 28:15

Quote:According to the Koran, Moses clearly states that the murder he had just committed was an act of evil. So, obviously, Moses was a sinner.


Unless, of course, you are suggesting that it is not a sin when a Muslim does the "work of Satan".

Quote:I find it interesting that you would claim that Jesus was a sinner. The Koran disagrees with you (see, for example, surahs 3:46, 6:86, 19:19).
What is the evidence for your claim that muslims believe Jesus was a sinner?

Quote:In any case, I fail to see how your claim that Jesus was a sinner provides any evidence whatsoever in support of your other claim that Moses was not a sinner.

Quote:Christians believe that Jesus is God. So of course we, like Muslims, believe that Jesus was sinless.

Quote:Your fellow Christian Brother CC, already admitted that all miracles that done by Jesus were not his own and they were the work of God Almighty who did create Jesus.


Salam


Wael.

Quote:Not so fast...what I said was that the miracles done by Jesus was the work of God. As you know, I believe that Jesus <b>IS</b> God. Ergo, the miracles were done by God....

Quote:Bismillah:


Nice try, ambiguous as usual.


If Jesus is God, then how he did not know about the Day of Judgment? am not going to argue over this matter again. I’ve presented the truth and you have to decide for yourself.


There not a single unequivocal statement from Jesus himself where he say am God or where he say worship me. There is none.


in fact, if you read the Gospel of Matthew, 26:39 we are told that Jesus <b>"fell on his face, and prayed" to God</b>. And in the Gospel According to John, 17:3, <b>Jesus declares that the one he prayed to is the only true God.</b> there is no point at all for Jesus to pray if he was God. well nothing else to say.


Salam


wael.

Quote:Nice try, ambiguous as usual.

Quote:There not a single unequivocal statement from Jesus himself where he say am God or where he say worship me.