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A WEEK OF MOURNING FOR THE MUSLIMS - stanley - 07-16-2005


A WEEK OF MOURNING FOR THE MUSLIMS


16/7/05


by Reyaan al Humaithi


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Since Thursday's bombings in London the world's media attention has been relentlessly focusing on the tragedy of the 50 or so who lost their lives. News flashes of suspects (who conveniently can't be caught or questioned due to being 'suicide bombers') are constantly followed by analytical reports of 'how could such horrific acts of terror take place in Britain?'


In this same week…..


- the British established state of 'Israel' launched a bombing onslaught on the innocent civilians of Nablus and later Gaza. The slaughter of innocent sons was justified under the pretext of them being 'militants'.


- more than 32 innocent children were burnt alive in a car bombing in Baghdad while rallying around an ice cream van. While 'insurgents' were blamed, the locals know full well that these are common American and British tactics used to justify their continued occupation of Muslim land.


- hundreds of Muslim families and mosques across the globe were assaulted and vandalized by the 'civilized values' of the Kuffar in so called 'revenge attacks'.


- hundreds of Muslims were killed in a train crash in Pakistan due to the lack of funding, organisation and security measures taken by the Pakistani government. Meanwhile Pervez Musharraf was groveling and kneeling to Britain, offering his full support by raiding and terrorizing as many Islamic schools as possible.


- more than a dozen innocent Muslims suffocated in the back of a van in the searing heat of Baghdad after being blindfolded, tied and locked up for 14 hours by American soldiers. There were no charges against them.


- spokesmen from the Kuffar and those smitten by the lure of the West (who supposedly represent the Islamic Ummah and her communities) shamelessly linked the cause of the London bombings as being due to the absence of Kufr Democratic states in both Iraq and Palestine. The insidious agenda of 'give them Palestine, Iraq and democratize the rest of the Muslim world and you will eliminate the tension from the Muslims' is now at the forefront. In fact this tension emanates from the Islamic Aqeedah and is not linked to a democratic Palestine or Iraq but rather the dominance of Kufr and the absence of the Islamic ruling system of which mankind so desperately needs in these times of darkness.


Yaa Muslimeen! The bombings in London are a daily reality in our Muslim lands, planned and manufactured under the dominance and subjugation of the Kuffar and her agents. Indeed the London bombings have aided no one but the Kuffar in further justifying their onslaught on our Islamic Aqeedah. It is this onslaught that we Muslims are facing week upon week. For us Muslims, this certainly has been a week of mourning …..just like very other week under the merciless iron fist of Kufr.




A WEEK OF MOURNING FOR THE MUSLIMS - Universist - 07-16-2005


Quote:A WEEK OF MOURNING FOR THE MUSLIMS
.....In fact this tension emanates from the Islamic Aqeedah and is not linked to a democratic Palestine or Iraq but rather the dominance of Kufr and the absence of the Islamic ruling system of which mankind so desperately needs in these times of darkness.




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Deja Vu...


Only 70+ years ago another man said this....


Our Movement was not formed with any election in view, but in order to spring to the rescue of this people as its last help in the hour of greatest need, at the moment when in fear and despair it sees the approach of the Red Monster...


It is from our Movement that redemption will come - that today is the feeling of millions. That has become almost a new religious faith!


...Either Germany sinks, and we through our despicable cowardice sink with it, or else we dare to enter on the fight against death and devil and rise up against the fate that has been planned for us. THEN WE SHALL SEE WHICH IS THE STRONGER: THE SPIRIT OF INTERNATIONAL JEWRY OR THE WILL OF GERMANY.


Hitler Speaks in Munich


SPEECH OF AUGUST 1, 1923


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The similarity of the hate speech is striking....


The violence no different...


The aim is the same...


Universist




A WEEK OF MOURNING FOR THE MUSLIMS - Universist - 07-16-2005


MIDDLE EAST


Saturday, July 16, 2005 · Last updated 1:52 p.m. PT


List of deadly attacks in Iraq


By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS


Deadly attacks in Iraq:


- July 16, 2005: Suicide bomber detonates explosives strapped to his body at a gas station near a Shiite mosque in central city of Musayyib, blowing up a fuel tanker and killing at least 54 people and wounding it least 82.


- May 4, 2005: Bomb explodes among Iraqi civilians applying for police jobs in Kurdish city of Irbil, killing about 60 people and wounding some 150.


- May 1, 2005: A car bomb obliterates a tent crowded with mourners for the funeral of a Kurdish official in the northern city of Tal Afar, killing 25 people and wounding more than 50.


- April 24, 2005: Insurgents stage coordinated double-bombings in Tikrit and a Shiite neighborhood in Baghdad, killing a total of 29 Iraqis and injuring 74.


- March 10, 2005: A suicide bomber blows himself up at a Shiite mosque during a funeral in the northern city of Mosul, killing at least 47 people and wounding more than 100.


- Feb. 28, 2005: In the deadliest single strike since the fall of Saddam Hussein, a suicide car bomber targets mostly Shiite police and National Guard recruits in Hillah, killing 125 and wounding more than 140. Some of the dead and injured are at a nearby market.


- Feb. 18, 2005: Two suicide bombers attack two mosques, leaving 28 people dead, while an explosion near a Shiite ceremony kills two other people.


- Feb. 8, 2005: A suicide bomber blows himself up in the middle of a crowd of army recruits, killing 21 people.


- Dec. 19, 2004: Car bombs tear through a Najaf funeral procession and Karbala's main bus station, killing at least 60 people and wounding more than 120 in the two Shiite holy cities.


- Sept. 30, 2004: A series of bombs in Baghdad's al-Amel neighborhood kill 35 children and seven adults as U.S. troops hand out candy at a government ceremony to inaugurate a new sewage treatment plant.


- Sept. 14, 2004: A car bomb rips through a busy market near a Baghdad police headquarters where Iraqis were waiting to apply for jobs, and gunmen open fire on a van carrying police home from work in Baqouba, killing at least 59 people total and wounding at least 114.


- Aug. 26, 2004: A mortar barrage slams into a mosque filled with Iraqis preparing to march on the embattled city of Najaf, killing 27 people and wounding 63.


- July 29, 2004: A suicide car bomb devastates a busy street in Baqouba, killing 70 people.


- April 21, 2004: Five blasts near police stations and police academy in southern city of Basra kill at least 55 people.


- March 2, 2004: Coordinated blasts from suicide bombers, mortars and planted explosives strike Shiite Muslim shrines in Karbala and in Baghdad, killing at least 181 and wounding 573.


- Feb. 11, 2004: Suicide attacker blows up a car packed with explosives in a crowd of Iraqis waiting outside an army recruiting center in Baghdad, killing 47 people.


- Feb. 10, 2004: Suicide bomber explodes a truckload of explosives outside a police station in Iskandariyah, killing 53 people.


- Feb. 1, 2004: Twin suicide bombers kill 109 people in two Kurdish party offices in Irbil.


- Oct. 27, 2003: Four suicide bombings target International Red Cross headquarters and four Iraqi police stations in Baghdad, killing 40 people, mostly Iraqis.


- Aug. 29, 2003: A car bomb explodes outside mosque in Najaf, killing more than 85 people, including Shiite leader Ayatollah Mohammed Baqir al-Hakim. Although officials never gave a final death toll, there were suspicions it may have been higher.


- Aug. 19, 2003: A truck bomb explodes outside the U.N. headquarters building in Baghdad, killing 22 people.


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Americans did this???


Universist




A WEEK OF MOURNING FOR THE MUSLIMS - stanley - 07-18-2005


I feel very sad that you are clueless to the reality of Iraq and the political games being played there. U clearly haven't been to Iraq nor have any relations there.


What if i told you that kidnappings of the local civilians are now common in Iraq for ransoms. These are well known to be allowed and sometimes even organised by 'groups' backed by Americans for slice of the ransom. What if i told you that these same so called 'insurgents' were responsible for rescuing one of my friend's brother from their kidnappers who had demanded a 10,000 dollar ransom??


What if I told you that two months ago two close friends of mine were in Baghdad for work and had their hired car stopped by American soldiers. They were then asked to leave the car and produce their papers at the checkpoint. After 10 minutes they were told to drive to the British checkpoint. Once back in their car they realised that the car felt heavy. They checked the boot and found the soldiers had placed explosives there.


What if I told it is common for the bombs to be planted on innocent civilians by the Brits and Yanks - we know of many incidents like this as do the Muslims in Iraq.


Your name is ironic as you are engulfed in your dream bubble of Cnn and Fox news. I implore you to visit Iraq and see for yourself what is happening to our people. As for likening Islam to Nazis - I can only pray that you live to witness the supremacy and dignity of the Islamic system being implented in the world so that you may realise the corruption and debauchery of capitalism.




A WEEK OF MOURNING FOR THE MUSLIMS - reepicheep - 07-18-2005


Stanley wrote:




Quote:What if I told it is common for the bombs to be planted on innocent civilians by the Brits and Yanks - we know of many incidents like this as do the Muslims in Iraq.

I would tell you: "prove it". Do you have any evidence whatsoever to back up your claims?


The Sunni terrorists in Iraq have discovered that it is too dangerous to attack coalition or Iraqi government troops, because these soldiers have the disturbing habit of shooting back. Therefore, the brave Sunni terrorists have decided to attack soft targets such as Shiite women and children.


The vast majority of casualties in Iraq right now are Shiite civilians murdered by Sunni terrorists.




A WEEK OF MOURNING FOR THE MUSLIMS - Universist - 07-18-2005


Quote:I feel very sad that you are clueless to the reality of Iraq and the political games being played there. U clearly haven't been to Iraq nor have any relations there.
What if i told you that kidnappings of the local civilians are now common in Iraq for ransoms. These are well known to be allowed and sometimes even organised by 'groups' backed by Americans for slice of the ransom. What if i told you that these same so called 'insurgents' were responsible for rescuing one of my friend's brother from their kidnappers who had demanded a 10,000 dollar ransom??


What if I told you that two months ago two close friends of mine were in Baghdad for work and had their hired car stopped by American soldiers. They were then asked to leave the car and produce their papers at the checkpoint. After 10 minutes they were told to drive to the British checkpoint. Once back in their car they realised that the car felt heavy. They checked the boot and found the soldiers had placed explosives there.


What if I told it is common for the bombs to be planted on innocent civilians by the Brits and Yanks - we know of many incidents like this as do the Muslims in Iraq.


Your name is ironic as you are engulfed in your dream bubble of Cnn and Fox news. I implore you to visit Iraq and see for yourself what is happening to our people. As for likening Islam to Nazis - I can only pray that you live to witness the supremacy and dignity of the Islamic system being implented in the world so that you may realise the corruption and debauchery of capitalism.




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What if I told you I had family serving in Iraq. That I have visited Iraq. That what you say is pure heresay. What if your friends lied to you. What if the information your recieving from Aljezerra is also slanted to the political ends of its puppet masters. The same ones running the CNN(LIARS) and FOX (BIG FAT LIARS) so called news outlets that you disdain. What if the truth is that Sunni terrorist are attacking Shite majorities for the purpose of preserving a seat at the political table that will form once America is gone.


I see nothing in this war that does not serve some groups purpose. And I blame all groups, america included for the horrifying violence that is being exacted against the innocents of all faiths in Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Syria, Turkey, and every other country where the Islamic wars of today continue.


My point is simple. No religion ask for war. All religions subcumb to it. No one involved is guilt free, except the innocents.


Your call for a grand single dominant force above all men is an old one practiced by power seeking MEN for 10's of thousands of years. Rome, Germany, Russia, Britan, America, Iran, Syria, Iraq, all of the places where dictatorships exist on the planet and have for all of human history have attempted the control you call for.


Here is the trouble with your desire for a dominant system of belief. The christians out number you. The other religions of the world equal your numbers. The secularist equal your numbers. There will be no great single power on this planet. Ever. There will war, and rumors of war for as long as people like you wish for, wait, and want for a single supreme way of life.


And that is the real lesson of hate. Of monotheism.


In the end it always comes down to murder.


And the hate to which you subscribe.


Universist




A WEEK OF MOURNING FOR THE MUSLIMS - Muslimah - 07-18-2005


Bismillah


salam all


Universist I dont think anyone here would address u, regardless of being a non Muslim in a disrepecful manner specially that i respected your approach on a post ending it with respect to all. I wish we can keep this. Calling Stanely hate subscriber is not accepted I am afraid.


If he is able to present u with facts that u dont want to believe that is different.


However, rarely I do indulge in such conversations. But let me tell u that even if what u r saying is true, it proves that Muslims are to be blamed for what is happening since victory comes from Allah when we fight in the name of Allah and not in the name of a parliament chair, sect, nationalism.....whatever u may call.


and fighting in the name of Allah those who attack Muslim land has nothing to do with hate. Since to start with at this situation we are attacked.


I know I asked this question on this board at least like 5 times.


But why is the US in Iraq? who assigned it World director?


If u r interested in knowing why i will provide u with a hadeeth (Prophet's saying) to tell u why.


Allah u akbar.




A WEEK OF MOURNING FOR THE MUSLIMS - Universist - 07-18-2005


Quote:Bismillah
salam all


Universist I dont think anyone here would address u, regardless of being a non Muslim in a disrepecful manner specially that i respected your approach on a post ending it with respect to all. I wish we can keep this. Calling Stanely hate subscriber is not accepted I am afraid.

My apologies.


I was outraged by the heresay without backing of a reference concerning the actions of soldiers. While the USA may be filled with decietful lying politicians, it is not true that all who serve the USA have a similar disposition. His comments were contrived and meant to cause anger.




Quote:If he is able to present u with facts that u dont want to believe that is different.

He did not post a "fact" in that message. He posted heresay. And I ask you to consider that if the story he reported of American Soldiers planting bombs in his cars were true and something done with regularity, why then is it not reported by Al Jezzera or Islam Online? Surely they are as equally as smart as the kafir American press and would be able to peform an investigative report proving that this is occuring.


Why do you allow someone to post messages filled with heresay, with no backing by any reliable source, and then defend it as "NEWS". Every post I make is taken from a NEWS source. I consider IslamOnline to be a credible NEWS source. Do you? Is the material that Stanley reports as reliable as IslamOnline? Do you support the right of any member to post inflamatory heresay and call it "NEWS".


If you wish to maintain the integrity of conversations on this thread, then you should consider requiring post in the NEWS section of your site to have some referenceable source which is acceptable by you as a source of truth. If you cite the news sources you consider reliable then I will abide by that list.


I would ask that you include at least one american, one british, one or more egyptian, and as many credible Islamic sources as you like in your list. Personally I am very interested in what the Iranian, Syrian, and Saudi press has to say as well. If we strive to identify truth, we will find it.


If we allow anyone with an ax to grind to post heresay, then the integrity of this thread is lost, and all will see that as a decision made by a muslim who admins this site. What is your truth in this regard? Do you support integrity or heresay.




Quote:However, rarely I do indulge in such conversations. But let me tell u that even if what u r saying is true, it proves that Muslims are to be blamed for what is happening since victory comes from Allah when we fight in the name of Allah and not in the name of a parliament chair, sect, nationalism.....whatever u may call.
and fighting in the name of Allah those who attack Muslim land has nothing to do with hate. Since to start with at this situation we are attacked.

So your saying America attacked Islam? Is that correct?




Quote:I know I asked this question on this board at least like 5 times.
But why is the US in Iraq? who assigned it World director?


If u r interested in knowing why i will provide u with a hadeeth (Prophet's saying) to tell u why.


Allah u akbar.

The US invaded Iraq because an evangelical right wing leader came to power in a hotly contested democratic elections process and then in service to the oldest powers on this earth, he and his band of neo-conservative right wing religious zealots bent on maintaining a control of oil, used a propped up arguments, and a thinly veiled mandate from God to pursue the economic interest of the global corporate leadership to wipe away the evil Saddam, and place among the muslims of Iraq an opportunity for democracy.


Its all a wierd, wrong headed approach to solving a problem that did not exist. WMD were not found and so that excuse evaporated in the wind. The truth of America and its invasion of Iraq will always be a bad truth. But this is nothing new, because if you roll back the clock and look at Islam, or Jewish, or Christian wars for the last 2000 years you find exactly the same political reasonings and motivations for war among all three. Every time a bad person gains control of an ideology, war follows.


Its the same broken record over and over and over.


You asked, othewise I would not have ever posted this answer.


And yes I would like to hear you version of it. Please do tell me this hadeeth. Please provide if you can a reference to it at:


http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/


So that I may have a chance to study all that surrounds it.


I appreciate your consideration.


With respect.


Universist




A WEEK OF MOURNING FOR THE MUSLIMS - Muslimah - 07-18-2005


Bismillah


salam Universist


I must say I do respect much your comments, true we can not relate incidents if not backed by evidence.


Me myself I wouldnt really discard such possibilities, since I know the jews for example (check Lavon movement) were indulged in similar activities in Egypt on like 56. U can google lavon movement for the time being.


Praise be to Allah, being a native Arabic speakers gives me the privilage to read the hadeeth in Arabic and translate it.


If u will accpet my translation, I am posting it here.


Then later we can discuss it.


Narrated Abdullah Ibn Omar that the Messenger salla Allah a`alyhee wa sallam came to us saying O people of Muhajereen (immigrants) there are five issues if you will be inflicted with them and I seek refuge to Allah that you would not be available when they occur,


never fornication would spread among people till they commit it publicly except that plague and other unprecedented diseases which was never experienced before among their predecessors would spread and prevail,


never people would cheat while weighing and scaling except that they suffer tough times, food deficiency and unjust rulers,


never people refrain from paying Zakat for their money except that they would be denied rain from sky and if it was not for animals they would have never received rain,


never people violate the covenant of Allah and His Messenger except that Allah Sends on them an enemy from outside to take part of what is in their hands,


and when their Imams (religious leaders) don’t rule with the book of Allah and start selecting from what Allah revealed except that Allah instills their torture among them.” (reported by Ibn Majeh)


I broke the hadeeth into points for u to be able to follow. Thus what is happening is not the problem or let us say the disease but rather symptoms for diseases the Muslim Ummah is inflicted with. I admit usually I have a totally different viewpoint to things happening around me.


If the current situation didnt occur the Messenger wouldnt have been the Messenger who does not speak of desire.


Look at this one too:


Ahmad relates in a hadeeth narrated by Abu Hurairah, radhiallahu `anhu, that the Prophet, sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam said, "The Hour will not happen until knowledge is taken out, time passes quickly, earthquakes increase in number, tribulations (fitan) appear, <b>and al-Harj increases in number." It was said, "What is al-Harj, O Rasoolullah?" He said, "Al Qatl, al Qatl (Killing)". </b>(Bukhar)


Here I m not discussing who is right and who is wrong, but rather stating the point that people do get killed while just even going to work in the morning.


It is a stage that was foretold by the Messenger prayer and peace be upon him indicating the closeness of the hour. The hour is when this world will come to an end.




A WEEK OF MOURNING FOR THE MUSLIMS - Muslimah - 07-18-2005


Bismillah


salam Universist


Belive it or not I logged off and in again after thinking a bit that u might misunderstand something.


Here the Messenger prayer and peace be upon him was just stating a stage the Muslim Ummah was expected to experience due to the diseases included in the hadeeth.


The other hadeeth includes signs of the closeness of the day after as taught to him by Allah Sobhanhu wa Ta`la. And as u can see both situations are taking place.