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An internal issue on Islammessage - Muslimah - 03-23-2006
Bismillah
as salam alykom
Regardless of being a Muslim or not, regardless of our multiple differences specially with our non Muslim member. But we still remain in a way or another part of the same group. I d like very much thru this thread try to bestow the sense of personal ownership even to the non Muslim members whom I m sure will be as upset as us muslims from what i m about to tell u all here.
First let me tell you why I posted this thread:
http://www.islamsms.com/bb//index.php?showtopic=3328
I wanted to introduce the amount of hate spelled out of the mouths of non Muslims in a way that really went off limits. Our only crime is that we say Only One Allah and Mohamed is the messenger and Prophet and Jesus is a Messenger and Prophet. i wasnt in a way aiming to refute even or make any responses, as my brother naseeha said, we dont need to really run around the places refuting whoever feels like making controversial statements for whatever reasons they may be. Although i said yes we may respond and even posted a file. But that was for totally a different purpose.
Any way before u all get bored with me here, as u all know a year ago we had a member who registered with an extremely offensive screen name, which made us change our policy into putting the new registerations on validation till admin approves them. Recently, my brother mohsie joined as admin and informed me that there was a member who registered under a somehow strange name and that he didnt approve him till we discuss. To tell you the truth, I wanted to see what was the aim of this person. I approved him, and u know what? on his first post, he titled his thread in a very vulgar language, he posted prono, he directed threats...etc.
I mean what is all this about? and everybody is running around complaining about Muslims attitude. Have u ever seen a Muslim who registered on a Hindu board (mind u all I think by now all memebers specially non Muslims exactly know how Islam perceives other religions) and for example deliberately made offensive posts, threats, insulting..etc. No. Have u seen Muslims scholars making such open hostile statements just exactly as this evangilist? NO. Why all this hate?
Because Allah Say so in Quran:
"You shall certainly be tried and tested in your wealth and properties and in your personal selves, and you shall certainly hear much that will grieve you from those who received the Scripture before you (Jews and Christians) and from those who ascribe partners to Allah, but if you persevere patiently, and become pious then verily, that will be a determining factor in all affairs, and that is from the great matters, [which you must hold on with all your efforts]." (Quran 3:186)
Truth Sayer Is Allah, Alhamdulelah for being Muslims
And may Allah Handle such people the way they deserve ameen
An internal issue on Islammessage - AlShamms - 03-23-2006
Peace.....
Muslimah, I understand your frustration at the hostile nature some people display. Which is one of the reasons why I stick around this bord. Many come here professing to be Christian and their behavior is not in line with what the Bible teaches. So I try to show, with God's guidance, what a Chrisitian is, and how we are supposed to behave when dealing with those who don't share our faith. If this individual came here, posting pornography and making threats, he was definitly not a Chrisitan.
Shamms
An internal issue on Islammessage - Muslimah - 03-23-2006
Bismillah
Well Shamms that person displayed an Israeli oriented support, thus he want us to assume he is Jewish. Although of course within the cyber world, no one can be certain about anything
An internal issue on Islammessage - naseeha - 03-23-2006
Subhanallah....
Let's not let this thing bring us down... Umm... dont be frustrated with them... this was reallly upsetting... and very startling when i saw it first... subhanallah...
based on his attitude it shows clearly his attacks was not one based on intellect, brilliance or any other merits.....
his attack was one of pure stupidity....
we are bigger than him...
ban him..
let this be a lesson to all those who say muslims are the violent ones....
his vandalism is a testament to the hate out there for islam
subhanallah....
dont worry umm...
Allah is there and he knows what is our intention.... and added to that you have the support of us...
your family....
wa salaam
naseeha
An internal issue on Islammessage - Rock - 03-23-2006
Bismillah
Assalamu alykom
The vessel pours with it`s content, let the dogs bark and go on.
An internal issue on Islammessage - Muslimah - 03-23-2006
Bismillah
no brother, I m not and Insh aAllah will not be frustrated. Frustrtion is only for those who have no foundation or base to stand on, frustration is only for those who are doubting their stance. What actually happens in such cases, is that I see how Allah clearly Desribed this 1400 years ago in His ever lasting only true book. I see how Allah Warned us against them which stands as proof to those who are doubting Quran as Allah's final book. I see how weak they are and actually feel terribly sorry for them. Only the weak who has nothing to say, who is envious because he knows others are right but cannt join resort to such silly acts. It diminshes nothing within the Muslim body, takes nothing away, but Alhamdulelah one grows stronger in faith Alhamdulelah
An internal issue on Islammessage - naseeha - 03-23-2006
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An internal issue on Islammessage - arclight - 03-23-2006
Quote:Have u seen Muslims scholars making such open hostile statements just exactly as this evangilist?
Well, erm, yes. Abu Hamza for one.
Sadly neither Islam or Christianity holds the exclusive copyright on idiots. For every Reverend Graham, theres an Abu Hamza. :(
As for the troll you found, the net's full of them. Chances are he's not even remotely pro-Israeli, but its the most obvious thing to pick up on if you want to stir up a message board for discussing Islam.
An internal issue on Islammessage - arclight - 03-23-2006
Quote:I don't think Hamza could be classed as a scholar but I am reasonably sure there are islamic scholars that are an equal to Graham. Religious zealots are the same no matter what the religion.
Maybe I've mis-understood the use of the word 'scholar' in islamic terms. But even if I have, the Hamza/Graham relationship still stands.
Graham calls himself a Reverend, but isn't member of a proper church. He's a grubby money making Evangelist, who's main aim in life is to rip as much money off gullible God-fearing people as his bank manager can handle. That comment of his about Islam is no more a than publicity stunt to get his mug in the papers, and his hand in your wallet. Why do you think he tried so hard to get the Genesis song banned in America? ( http://www.lyricsfreak.com/g/genesis/58872.html for those that don't know what I'm refering to) He was petrified that it might actually open the eyes of some of his victims.
In short, I'm not a member of the Billy Graham fan club. <_<
An internal issue on Islammessage - naseeha - 03-24-2006
Umm....
As a control for these people entering islammessage and vandalising it... i wonder if there is some way that we can prevent someone from doing this..
I mean... It's very difficult for you to tell if someone new is going to give trouble..
maybe there's something we can do in order to minimise the incidence of these things happening...
i really do hope that this is not the beginning of a new trend or something....
but alhamdulillah.... everything will work out
insha allah
wa salaam
naseeha