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Who are Believers according to Quran? - SisterJennifer - 12-01-2007


Who are Believers according to Quran?


<b>Surah At-Tawba: Ayah 112</b>


"They who turn (to Allah), who serve (Him), who praise (Him), who fast, who bow down, who prostrate themselves, who enjoin what is good and forbid what is evil, and who keep the limits of Allah; and give good news to the believers."


<b>Surah Al-Muminun : Ayah 1-11</b>


"Successful indeed are the believers, Who are humble in their prayers, And who keep aloof from what is vain, And who are givers of poor-rate, And who guard their private parts, Except before their mates or those whom their right hands possess, for they surely are not blamable, But whoever seeks to go beyond that, these are they that exceed the limits; And those who are keepers of their trusts and their covenant, And those who keep a guard on their prayers; These are they who are the heirs, Who shall inherit the Paradise; they shall abide therein."


<b>Surah Ash-Shura : Ayah 36-38</b>


"So whatever thing you are given, that is only a provision of this world's life, and what is with Allah is better and more lasting for those who believe and rely on their Lord. And those who. shun the great sins and indecencies, and whenever they are angry they forgive. And those who respond to their Lord and keep up prayer, and their rule is to take counsel among themselves, and who spend out of what We have given them. "


<b>Surah An-Nur : Ayah 30-31</b>


"Say to the believing men that they cast down their looks and guard their private parts; that is purer for them; surely Allah is Aware of what they do. And say to the believing women that they cast down their looks and guard their private parts and do not display their ornaments except what appears thereof, and let them wear their head-coverings over their bosoms, and not display their ornaments except to their husbands or their fathers, or the fathers of their husbands, or their sons, or the sons of their husbands, or their brothers, or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or those whom their right hands possess, or the male servants not having need (of women), or the children who have not attained knowledge of what is hidden of women; and let them not strike their feet so that what they hide of their ornaments may be known; and turn to Allah all of you, O believers! so that you may be successful."




Who are Believers according to Quran? - reepicheep - 12-01-2007


SisterJennifer wrote:


> Who are Believers according to Quran?


>


> And who guard their private parts, Except before their


> mates or those whom their right hands possess,


So, it appears that "Believers according to Quran" are those who keep women as sex slaves. Correct?




Who are Believers according to Quran? - SisterJennifer - 12-01-2007


The verse has been discussed more than once on the forum, if you really want to understand it take a look.



Who are Believers according to Quran? - Muslimah - 12-06-2007


Bismillah


as salam alykom


Jazaki Allah khairan Jennifer for this post. It helps to compile definitions in one area so that one can measure him/herself against the criteria.




Who are Believers according to Quran? - umm Zachariah - 12-07-2007


Bismillah


Barak Allahu fiki sis Jennifer for the post.




Quote:SisterJennifer wrote:
> Who are Believers according to Quran?


>


> And who guard their private parts, Except before their


> mates or those whom their right hands possess,


So, it appears that "Believers according to Quran" are those who keep women as sex slaves. Correct?

Your understanding of what 'it appears to be' is not correct.




Who are Believers according to Quran? - reepicheep - 12-07-2007


<b>umm Zachariah wrote: Your understanding of what 'it appears to be' is not correct.</b>


So someone enlighten me. What does the following passage in the koran mean?


<i><b>And who guard their private parts, Except before their mates or those whom their right hands possess, </b></i>


Who are these people that the "right hands possess"? Any why are muslim males allowed to expose their private parts to them???




Who are Believers according to Quran? - umm Zachariah - 12-07-2007


Bismillah


ReepiCheep


What is “a captive that your right hands possess”?


http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satelli.../AskAboutIslamE


Sex With Slaves: What's the Deal?


http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satelli...d=1156077761245




Who are Believers according to Quran? - Muslimah - 12-07-2007


Bismillah


reepi, I think Jennifer already asked you to search rather than hijacking a thread. Of course Ummz's patience is Mash aAllah is highly appreciated. However, reepi, do a search on this same board, and you will find many discussions regarding your question, that you might have even been part of. I think you were. And when you find the threads, let us know. :)




Who are Believers according to Quran? - reepicheep - 12-08-2007


umm Zachariah, according to your first link:


<b>"...opening the door for female slaves or captives to be married by destitute Muslims...</b>


Perhaps. But a muslim slave owner can have sex with his slaves whether or not he is married to them. In fact, according to the koran, the slave owner can have sex with his female slaves even if the slave is married to someone else. I find this belief offensive in the extreme.


According to your second link:


<b>Also, the Prophet's mission was not to eradicate slavery, but to establish rights and bring people to the point of being able to <i>eradicate it from their own hearts first </i>before they eradicated it from society.</b>


Slavery was practiced in Saudi Arabia until 1962, and the only reason it was eliminated is that President Kennedy put intense pressure on the Saudi government to stop this vile practice. So, then, it appears that even 1300 years was an insufficiant period of time for Arab muslims to eradicate slavery "from their own hearts".


Since the end of slavery was forced upon Arabs, and not given up by choice, I have no doubt that Arabs would legalize slavery again in a second if there was a wayfor them to do so. Besides, as all of us know, the treatment of many of the foreign workers in Saudi Arabia and other gulf countries is little better than slavery.


In addition to the near slavery which is still practiced in Arab countries such as Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Qatar, actual slavery is still practiced by muslims in Mauritania (which is 100% muslim) and Sudan (which is 70% muslim).




Who are Believers according to Quran? - SisterJennifer - 12-08-2007


Quote:Bismillah
as salam alykom


Jazaki Allah khairan Jennifer for this post. It helps to compile definitions in one area so that one can measure him/herself against the criteria.

Waalikum assalaam,


Yes, that was the intention exactly. Insha Allah if anybody has any other ayah or hadith on the topic it could be put here for the same purpose. I hope any other side topics could be discussed on a separate thread. Jazak Allah khairn.