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  Al Mushrikoon Exposed
Posted by: AhmedBahgat - 04-07-2007, 05:07 PM - Forum: Discussion of Beliefs - Replies (1)


Salam All


This is an aticle that I wrote in repsponse to a clear cut enemy of Islam on the anti Islam web site faithfreedom.org run by Dr Ali Sina (A malcious enemy of Islam), it was a silly member who promotes non sesnse about the Quran, despite my article is a reply to him, I consider it directed at all Muslims as well, on Faith Freedom web site, hardly no Muslim came with a valid argument to refute my accusation, I really hope that some Muslims in here come forward and refute my arguments if they think it is wrong, I will only accept Quran evidences, any other man made evidences won;t be admissable in my book, let me now post my article the way it is without any editing:


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An FFI member (muhmed terror head) but I call him muhmed boofhead, came up with the following stupid claim:




Quote:إِنَّكُمْ وَمَا تَعْبُدُونَ
مِنْ دُونِ اللَّهِ حَصَبُ جَهَنَّمَ أَنْتُمْ لَهَا وَارِدُونَ" الأنبياء: 98
"احْشُرُوا الَّذِينَ ظَلَمُوا وَأَزْوَاجَهُمْ وَمَا كَانُوا يَعْبُدُونَ
,(*) مِنْ دُونِ اللَّهِ فَاهْدُوهُمْ إِلَى صِرَاطِ الْجَحِيمِ"



Quote:إthe 1st is al anbya 98
the 2nd is safat 23:22



Quote:this verse of quran say that he(ALLAH) will punish the oppstils and what THAY WORSHIP in hell,now this is verry strange how would allah put your idols in hell,?



Quote:إ the moon ,the sun the thunder,the birds ,the sky,the cows,...etc.
ok we are responsible but what did the cow,camel ,dogs fault if i worsheped them..!



Quote:إ and the sun how do u through the sun in hell its almost the same for it.
hope you realy understand arabic then its so easy to just read that verse of quran and know what i mean.

Let me post the verses properly


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Surely you and what you worship besides Allah are the firewood of hell; to it you shall come.


<i>[The Quran ; 21:98]</i>


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إِنَّكُمْ وَمَا تَعْبُدُونَ مِن دُونِ اللَّهِ حَصَبُ جَهَنَّمَ أَنتُمْ لَهَا وَارِدُونَ (98)





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22: Gather together those who were unjust and their associates, and what they used to worship


23: Besides Allah, then lead them to the way to hell.


<i>[The Quran ; 37:22-23]</i>


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احْشُرُوا الَّذِينَ ظَلَمُوا وَأَزْوَاجَهُمْ وَمَا كَانُوا يَعْبُدُونَ (22)


مِن دُونِ اللَّهِ فَاهْدُوهُمْ إِلَى صِرَاطِ الْجَحِيمِ (23)





I will actually take the chance replying to the above idiotic claim and expose the Mushrikoon as well, the subject of Mushrikoon is very much related to the above, because at least to Shirk is to worship/serve another entity but Allah and that is what the verses above are talking about, the verses are talking about those wrong doers who are worshiping/serving others but Allah.


muhmed boofhead thinks that all these man mad gods worshipped by different humans like the sun, the cows, some humans, etc etc must be burnt in hell because the Quran told us above that Allah will gather the Mushrikoon/Kafiroon with those whom they worshipped in the hell fire.


The boofhead also wonders how the hell the sun will be burnt in hell?


Let me add to his wonder another wonder, how the hell Jesus will be burnt in hell? Come on, we know that the majority of the Christians if not all worship/serve Jesus as a god therefore according to the above verses, Jesus must be burnt in hell. Which is not true of course


muhmed boofhead is also wondering about the fairness of God who is going to punish other things for a crime committed by other humans.


To be honest I found the subject funny at the beginning but now I started to take it serious, however I firmly believe that those verses posted by him are only talking about the Humans and Jinn whom been worshipped by other humans.


Many including Muslims think that physically worshipping/serving another entity as a god is the only thing that constitute Shirk, but I firmly believe that this is not the only case to constitute Shirk, logically speaking if you have two opposite propositions , for example:


1) Don’t kill


2) Kill


Another example is like this:


1) Believe in God


2) Don’t believe in God


Would you like another one?, why not:


1) Don’t lie


2) Lie


There are zillions of other examples and all will be religiously related , in the above examples it is clear that God is at one end and satan is at the other,


If you chose to ignore God proposition and obey satan proposition then you have shirked and worshipped/served satan because part of worshipping/serving God is to obey his messages, therefore if you obey others who order you to do the opposite to what the God orders you to do then you have shirked..


See, even though those Mushrikoon don’t consider satan as a god they still obeyed him in a proposition which was the opposite to what Allah said..


What should make it even worse for those clear cut Mushrikoon that Allah warned them in advance regarding Satan and yet they even ignored that warning by Allah. let’s look at the clear warning by Allah:


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Verily Satan is an enemy to you: so treat him as an enemy. He only invites his adherents, that they may become Companions of the Blazing Fire.


<i>[The Quran ; 35:6]</i>


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إِنَّ الشَّيْطَانَ لَكُمْ عَدُوٌّ فَاتَّخِذُوهُ عَدُوًّا إِنَّمَا يَدْعُو حِزْبَهُ لِيَكُونُوا مِنْ أَصْحَابِ السَّعِيرِ (6)





-> The verse starts with a very clear message, the devil took us as enemy therefore WE MUST TAKE HIM AS AN ENEMY ALSO:<b>” Verily Satan is an enemy to you: so treat him as an enemy”</b>, see how we have been WARNED in advance, he is not just our enemy, he is also the enemy of Allah, and if you claim to be following Allah but you listen to His enemy (Satan) at the same time by following what Satan propose then, your action must constitute SHIRK without even considering Satan as a god.


Let me ask you, if you listen to your enemy and the enemy of God instead of your God, wouldn’t that make you a Mushrik?:


-> Please pay attention to the words: <b>” He only invites his adherents, that they may become Companions of the Blazing Fire.”</b>, that is what satan can do, he only invites them so they become his companions in the blazing fire, I have to say, these words: <b>” إِنَّمَا يَدْعُو حِزْبَهُ”</b>, which was translated as <b>“ He only invites his adherents”</b>, is translated wrong, the word <b>“Hizb”</b> means <b>“Party”</b>, i.e. <b>Satan calls his party</b>, which is the opposite to <b>Hizb Allah</b> which means the Party of Allah, let’s have a look at the verse telling us about <b>Hizb Allah</b>, (The party of Allah):


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55: Only Allah is your Wali and His Messenger and those who believe, those who keep up prayers and pay the poor-rate while they bow.


56: And whoever takes Allah and His messenger and those who believe for a guardian, then surely the party of Allah are they that shall be triumphant.


<i>[The Quran ; 5:55-56]</i>


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إِنَّمَا وَلِيُّكُمُ اللّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ وَالَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ الَّذِينَ يُقِيمُونَ الصَّلاَةَ وَيُؤْتُونَ الزَّكَاةَ وَهُمْ رَاكِعُونَ (55)


وَمَن يَتَوَلَّ اللّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ وَالَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ فَإِنَّ حِزْبَ اللّهِ هُمُ الْغَالِبُونَ (56)





-> See who should be considered by the believers as Wali in the religion, i.e. we should obey them, <b>” Only Allah is your Wali and His Messenger and those who believe,”</b>, those prophets and believers whom we should listen to can’t constitute Shirk <b>because what they should tell us to do should be exactly the same as what Allah told us to do in His Quran</b>, i.e. NOT THE OPPOSITE, look how those believers were described in the same verse: <b>” those who keep up prayers and pay the poor-rate while they bow.”</b>, NOT JUST ANYONE CLAIMING TO BE A BELIEVER.


-> Allah, His messengers and all true believers constitute the Hizb of Allah:<b>”then surely the party of Allah are they that shall be triumphant.”</b>, clearly we have another opposing party which is Satan and all his followers (adherents) from the humans and the jinn , satan is trying to make his party bigger by calling more to join as 35:6 told us


Remember we were told in 35:6 that satan :<b>”only invites his adherents, that they may become Companions of the Blazing Fire.”</b>, let’s see what Allah invites His party for:


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And Allah invites to the abode of peace and guides whom He pleases into the right path.


<i>[The Quran ; 10:25]</i>


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وَاللّهُ يَدْعُو إِلَى دَارِ السَّلاَمِ وَيَهْدِي مَن يَشَاء إِلَى صِرَاطٍ مُّسْتَقِيمٍ (25)





-> See how the two opposing parties have totally opposite invitation, here is both under each other:


<b>35:6</b>, <b>”satan only invites his adherents, that they may become Companions of the Blazing Fire.”</b>



<b>10:25</b>, <b>” And Allah invites to the abode of peace”</b>



So if you follow satan then you have shirked.


Let me highlight satan's main objective, it is clearly to flaw everyone of us, he is so committed that he said this to Allah:


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(Satan) said: "Then, by Thy power, I will put them all in the wrong,-“


<i>[The Quran ; 38:82]</i>


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قَالَ فَبِعِزَّتِكَ لَأُغْوِيَنَّهُمْ أَجْمَعِينَ (82)





-> By the power of God, satan will do his best to put all humans in the wrong, you have to know that satan main enemy are the believers and not the unbelievers, he needs to do nothing more to the unbelievers the unbelievers already shirked by following him opposite to what Allah said, unless they think of believing then he will come back to them from every where trying hard to put them in the wrong again:


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16- He said: Now, because Thou hast sent me astray, verily I shall lurk in ambush for them on Thy Right Path.


17- Then I shall come upon them from before them and from behind them and from their right hands and from their left hands, and Thou wilt not find most of them beholden (unto Thee).


<i>[The Quran ; 7:16-17]</i>


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قَالَ فَبِمَا أَغْوَيْتَنِي لأَقْعُدَنَّ لَهُمْ صِرَاطَكَ الْمُسْتَقِيمَ (16)


ثُمَّ لآتِيَنَّهُم مِّن بَيْنِ أَيْدِيهِمْ وَمِنْ خَلْفِهِمْ وَعَنْ أَيْمَانِهِمْ وَعَن شَمَآئِلِهِمْ وَلاَ تَجِدُ أَكْثَرَهُمْ شَاكِرِينَ (17)





-> See, <b>” verily I shall lurk in ambush for them on Thy Right Path”</b> and how he will do it?: <b>” I shall come upon them from before them and from behind them and from their right hands and from their left hands, and Thou wilt not find most of them beholden (unto Thee).”</b>


See how satan is working hard to increase his Hizb (party) numbers, you have to realize that he is giving the above promise to God Himself <b>” and Thou wilt not find most of them beholden (unto Thee)”</b>, i.e. it is either we join the winning party of Allah or the losing party of satan, if we join satan’s party and ignore Allah’s party then we have shirked because Allah is leading His party and satan is leading his opposite party.


Therefore all those who submitted to satan have shirked, satan is not a Mushrik though (will be explained at the end of my comment), sure all his party’s new recruits from the humans and the jinn will work hard to do exactly what satan did to them, i.e. they will try hard to increase their party numbers, i.e. if we listen to them then we have shirked because they say the opposite of what Allah says and we obeyed them and ignored Allah, let me give you a clear example from the Quran of some humans who work hard to say the opposite to what Allah says, if we listen to those unbelievers bound to hell then we will be Mushrikoon:


Here is what Allah tells us to do:


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And when the Quran is read, then listen to it and remain silent, that mercy may be shown to you.


<i>[The Quran ; 7:204]</i>


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وَإِذَا قُرِىءَ الْقُرْآنُ فَاسْتَمِعُواْ لَهُ وَأَنصِتُواْ لَعَلَّكُمْ تُرْحَمُونَ (204)





-> The message of our God is clear as light:<b>” And when the Quran is read, then listen to it and remain silent, that mercy may be shown to you.”</b>


Now let’s have a look and see if what the disbeliebers (like many on FFI web site) say is the opposite to what Allah said above:


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26: And those who disbelieve say: Do not listen to this Quran and make noise therein, perhaps you may overcome.


27: But We will certainly give the Unbelievers a taste of a severe Penalty, and We will requite them for the worst of their deeds.


28: That is the reward of the enemies of Allah-- the fire; for them therein shall be the house of long abiding; a reward for their denying Our communications.


29: And those who disbelieve will say: Our Lord! show us those who led us astray from among the jinn and the men that we may trample them under our feet so that they may be of the lowest.


<i>[The Quran ; 41:26-29]</i>


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وَقَالَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا لَا تَسْمَعُوا لِهَذَا الْقُرْآنِ وَالْغَوْا فِيهِ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَغْلِبُونَ (26)


فَلَنُذِيقَنَّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا عَذَابًا شَدِيدًا وَلَنَجْزِيَنَّهُمْ أَسْوَأَ الَّذِي كَانُوا يَعْمَلُونَ (27)


ذَلِكَ جَزَاء أَعْدَاء اللَّهِ النَّارُ لَهُمْ فِيهَا دَارُ الْخُلْدِ جَزَاء بِمَا كَانُوا بِآيَاتِنَا يَجْحَدُونَ (28)


وَقَالَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا رَبَّنَا أَرِنَا الَّذَيْنِ أَضَلَّانَا مِنَ الْجِنِّ وَالْإِنسِ نَجْعَلْهُمَا تَحْتَ أَقْدَامِنَا لِيَكُونَا مِنَ الْأَسْفَلِينَ (29)





-> Subhan Allah, see how verse 41:26 is telling us that the Kafir members of satan party are telling us the opposite to what Allah told us :<b>” And those who disbelieve say: Do not listen to this Quran and make noise therein, perhaps you may overcome.”</b>, that is exactly what the boys and girls on FFI web site do, look how the Quran is exposing them with such accuracy, let me put the two verse under each other and see how they are the total opposite:


<b>7:204, Allah said:</b>


<b>”And when the Quran is read, then listen to it and remain silent, that mercy may be shown to you.”</b>



<b>41:26, the members of Satan party say:</b>


<b>”Do not listen to this Quran and make noise therein, perhaps you may overcome.”</b>



Now if we follow what satan party call for which is the opposite to what Allah party call for then we have shirked, no question about it.


-> The problem for all those Kafirs and Mushriks from among the humans and the jinn is this as we read in the 41:27, <b>” But We will certainly give the Unbelievers a taste of a severe Penalty, and We will requite them for the worst of their deeds”</b>


-> I call them the enemy of Allah, indeed they are so:<b>” That is the reward of the enemies of Allah-- the fire; for them therein shall be the house of long abiding; a reward for their denying Our signs”</b>, wow what an achievement, please put you hands for such losers, (use your finger tips to clap please), the idiots on FFI web site reject that I called them “<b>enemies of Allah</b>”, well, didn’t they mock Allah, His messengers and His message on a daily basis trying to increase their losing party number?, don’t they tell the believers and those thinking about believeing <b>” Do not listen to this Quran and make noise therein, perhaps you may overcome”</b>?, the <b>enemies of Allah</b> is a very well deserved label, the problem is, it is the worst label a human or a jinn can have, the consequence of gaining such label is simply a well deserved seat in hell.


-> So those who shirked by listening to others humans and jinn who opposed the message of Allah will be in big trouble indeed, so what they will do then is simply calling for Allah to allow them to crush them under their feet:<b>”And those who disbelieve will say: Our Lord! show us those who led us astray from among the jinn and the men that we may trample them under our feet so that they may be of the lowest.”</b>, they followed them in what they wanted them to follow which was the opposite to what Allah wanted them to follow so they shirked, it is clear that what they followed is stated as <b>”الَّذَيْنِ أَضَلَّانَا مِنَ الْجِنِّ وَالْإِنسِ”</b>, <b>” those who led us astray from among the jinn and the men”</b>. the ones they worshipped/served, the ones they obeyed to the contrary to what Allah said to obey. This is called shirk.


Hell is only made to be the punishment from those among men and jinn, this is what Allah ordained to the men and jinn:


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And if We had pleased We would certainly have given to every soul its guidance, but the word (which had gone forth) from Me was just: I will certainly fill hell with the jinn and men together.


<i>[The Quran ; 32:13]</i>


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وَلَوْ شِئْنَا لَآتَيْنَا كُلَّ نَفْسٍ هُدَاهَا وَلَكِنْ حَقَّ الْقَوْلُ مِنِّي لَأَمْلَأَنَّ جَهَنَّمَ مِنَ الْجِنَّةِ وَالنَّاسِ أَجْمَعِينَ (13)





-> Firstly, Allah is telling us that He is the only One to guide any soul to its guidance:<b>” And if We had pleased We would certainly have given to every soul its guidance,”</b>, however Allah is not going to do it randomly by selecting some to guide and cursing the others, it does not work this way with our God, Allah guidance will only be offered to those sincere ones seeking His guidance, and He is the only one who can know who is sincere and who is not, who deserves to be guided and who does not., He knew that many will be arrogant and will join satan’s party so He declared :<b>” but the word (which had gone forth) from Me was just: I will certainly fill hell with the jinn and men together.”</b> , see <b>only the jinn and men</b> will be the residents of hell, there are many future residents of Hell on FFI whom we can easily identify so far and according to what they say.


This oath taken by Allah on Himself that both the humans and jinn will be the residents of Hell is stated again:


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118: And if your Lord had pleased He would certainly have made people a single nation, and they shall continue to differ.


119: Except those on whom your Lord has mercy; and for this did He create them; and the word of your Lord is fulfilled: Certainly I will fill hell with the jinn and the men, all together.


<i>[The Quran ; 11:118-119]</i>


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وَلَوْ شَاء رَبُّكَ لَجَعَلَ النَّاسَ أُمَّةً وَاحِدَةً وَلاَ يَزَالُونَ مُخْتَلِفِينَ (118)


إِلاَّ مَن رَّحِمَ رَبُّكَ وَلِذَلِكَ خَلَقَهُمْ وَتَمَّتْ كَلِمَةُ رَبِّكَ لأَمْلأنَّ جَهَنَّمَ مِنَ الْجِنَّةِ وَالنَّاسِ أَجْمَعِينَ (119)





-> See how the message in 32:13 was stated again but in two verses instead, this is the beauty of the Arabic Quran, those who can see it are really blessed by our God. <b>” And if your Lord had pleased He would certainly have made people a single nation”</b> , this actually a question asked by many ignorant, they always say why Allah didn’t send one religion instead of many?. They think that this way humans won’t differ between one and another and will be united, however Allah is telling us even if He made us one nation (one religion) we will still differ: <b>” and they shall continue to differ.”</b>, the reason for that is explained in the following verse:


-> Those who won’t differ (i.e. accept all religions as one religion from the same God) are blessed by Allah :<b>” Except those on whom your Lord has mercy;</b>, now for humans to differ even if they are made into one nation is a must BECAUSE THIS IS WHY ALLAH CREATED ALL OF US <b>” and for this did He create them;”</b>, see, this is EXACTLY what happens on FFI on a daily basis, a struggle between the believers and those enemy of Allah who want to put out His light, well, here is their reward:<b>”and the word of your Lord is fulfilled: Certainly I will fill hell with the jinn and the men, all together.”</b>, see all those members who joined the party of satan are only men and jinn, and the hell is made for them ONLY. Well done.


The following verse clearly says that many of jinn and humans are destined to hell


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And certainly We have created for hell many of the jinn and the men; they have hearts with which they do not understand, and they have eyes with which they do not see, and they have ears with which they do not hear; they are as cattle, nay, they are in worse errors; these are the heedless ones.


<i>[The Quran ; 7:179]</i>


<b> </b>



وَلَقَدْ ذَرَأْنَا لِجَهَنَّمَ كَثِيرًا مِّنَ الْجِنِّ وَالإِنسِ لَهُمْ قُلُوبٌ لاَّ يَفْقَهُونَ بِهَا وَلَهُمْ أَعْيُنٌ لاَّ يُبْصِرُونَ بِهَا وَلَهُمْ آذَانٌ لاَّ يَسْمَعُونَ بِهَا أُوْلَئِكَ كَالأَنْعَامِ بَلْ هُمْ أَضَلُّ أُوْلَئِكَ هُمُ الْغَافِلُونَ (179)





-> See, nothing else mentioned than humans and jinn who are destined to hell:<b>”And certainly We have created for hell many of the jinn and the men”</b>, i.e. the verses posted by muhmed boofhead are talking about those humans and jinn who were worshipped/served i.e. <b>“WERE OBEYED”</b> by other Humans and Jinn in what is the opposite to what Allah said.


When the many wrong doers among the humans and the jinn face hell, this is the message that will be told to both:


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O assembly of jinn and men! did there not come to you messengers from among you, relating to you My signs and warning you of the meeting of this day of yours? They shall say: We bear witness against ourselves; and this world's life deceived them, and they shall bear witness against their own souls that they were unbelievers.


<i>[The Quran ; 6:130]</i>


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يَا مَعْشَرَ الْجِنِّ وَالإِنسِ أَلَمْ يَأْتِكُمْ رُسُلٌ مِّنكُمْ يَقُصُّونَ عَلَيْكُمْ آيَاتِي وَيُنذِرُونَكُمْ لِقَاء يَوْمِكُمْ هَذَا قَالُواْ شَهِدْنَا عَلَى أَنفُسِنَا وَغَرَّتْهُمُ الْحَيَاةُ الدُّنْيَا وَشَهِدُواْ عَلَى أَنفُسِهِمْ أَنَّهُمْ كَانُواْ كَافِرِينَ (130)





-> This message clearly indicate that only the humans and jinn are the two creatures created by our God who were given freewill, therefore the punishment only applies to them :<b>” O assembly of jinn and men! did there not come to you messengers from among you, relating to you My signs and warning you of the meeting of this day of yours?”</b>, they will CONVICT THEMSELVES, <b>” They shall say: We bear witness against ourselves; and this world's life deceived them, and they shall bear witness against their own souls that they were unbelievers.”</b>, an example of such losers is msWesterner on FFI of course.


Indeed only men and jinn are the only two creatures who lie and say the opposite about our God, i.e. the punishment only applies to them and not to the sun nor to the moon neither to the cows which have been worshipped, here is a few verses that clearly prove that non other than the humans and the jinn who lie about our God:


Even the Jinn know it:


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4: And that the foolish amongst us used to forge extravagant things against Allah:


5: And that we thought that men and jinn did not utter a lie against Allah:





<i>[The Quran ; 72:4-5]</i>


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وَأَنَّهُ كَانَ يَقُولُ سَفِيهُنَا عَلَى اللَّهِ شَطَطًا (4)


وَأَنَّا ظَنَنَّا أَن لَّن تَقُولَ الْإِنسُ وَالْجِنُّ عَلَى اللَّهِ كَذِبًا (5)





The enemies of any prophet must be from among the humans or the jinn or both, they can’t be anything else:


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112: And thus did We make for every prophet an enemy, the Shaitans from among men and jinn, some of them suggesting to others varnished falsehood to deceive (them), and had your Lord pleased they would not have done it, therefore leave them and that which they forge.


113: And that the hearts of those who do not believe in the hereafter may incline to it and that they may be well pleased with it and that they may earn what they are going to earn (of evil).


114: Shall I then seek a judge other than Allah? And He it is Who has revealed to you the Book (which is) explained; and those whom We have given the Book know that it is revealed by your Lord with truth, therefore you should not be of the disputers.


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وَكَذَلِكَ جَعَلْنَا لِكُلِّ نِبِيٍّ عَدُوًّا شَيَاطِينَ الإِنسِ وَالْجِنِّ يُوحِي بَعْضُهُمْ إِلَى بَعْضٍ زُخْرُفَ الْقَوْلِ غُرُورًا وَلَوْ شَاء رَبُّكَ مَا فَعَلُوهُ فَذَرْهُمْ وَمَا يَفْتَرُونَ (112)


وَلِتَصْغَى إِلَيْهِ أَفْئِدَةُ الَّذِينَ لاَ يُؤْمِنُونَ بِالآخِرَةِ وَلِيَرْضَوْهُ وَلِيَقْتَرِفُواْ مَا هُم مُّقْتَرِفُونَ (113)


أَفَغَيْرَ اللّهِ أَبْتَغِي حَكَمًا وَهُوَ الَّذِي أَنَزَلَ إِلَيْكُمُ الْكِتَابَ مُفَصَّلاً وَالَّذِينَ آتَيْنَاهُمُ الْكِتَابَ يَعْلَمُونَ أَنَّهُ مُنَزَّلٌ مِّن رَّبِّكَ بِالْحَقِّ فَلاَ تَكُونَنَّ مِنَ الْمُمْتَرِينَ (114)





-> Clear from the above that only the humans and jinn are the enemies of any prophet :<b>” And thus did We make for every prophet an enemy, the Shaitans from among men and jinn”</b>, those enemy among the humans and jinn talk nothing but falsehood: <b>”some of them suggesting to others varnished falsehood to deceive (them),”</b>, Allah can easily stop the enemy but He is allowing them for a purpose which is to convict themselves and surely test others:<b>”and had your Lord pleased they would not have done it, therefore leave them and that which they forge”</b>


-> Only those who don’t believe in the Last Day listens to and obey the falsehood :<b>” And that the hearts of those who do not believe in the hereafter may incline to it and that they may be well pleased with it”</b>, and that is how they should convict themselves, <b>” and that they may earn what they are going to earn (of evil).”</b>


-> The above falsehood is not only by those Kafiroon (disbelievers) but also by those believers who take other laws from human then make it divine laws that must be adhered to as if it is from Allah however THERE SHOULD BE NO DIVINE LAWS FROM ANY HUMAN, ALL DIVINE LAWS THAT WE WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR MUST BE FROM ALLAH ALONE :<b>” Shall I then seek a judge other than Allah? And He it is Who has revealed to you the Book (which is) explained; and those whom We have given the Book know that it is revealed by your Lord with truth, therefore you should not be of the disputers.”</b>


Now, let’s move on to a very important and related subject that I mentioned earlier, the subject of Shirk, this is still related to the humans and the jinn as I will explain, most people are raised and only fed that to shirk is to take another entity as a god in addition to the One and only God, for example the Christians are Mushrikoon because they took other entities as other gods in addition to the one and only God, the Hindus are the exact same despite both the Veda and the Bible say that there is only ONE GOD. This type of Shirk is committed when humans make PARTNERS as GODS in addition to Allah, this shirk is obvious to a child, in fact this is what they mostly teach Muslim children as I was taught when I was a child. The Quran talked about this type of Shirk of course as we will see soon.


The Quran also talked more about another type of Shirk, this is the one that is harder to understand, it is committed by taking man made laws and making it divine as if it was ordained by Allah. people committing this type of Shirk don’t really realize that they are shirking, this is because they are programmed that Shirk is mostly to take others as gods in addition to the One and only God. We will see clearly that the Quran talked more about this type of Shirk, this makes sense of course because this is the Shirk that most humans are not aware of.


Let me summarize the above paragraph in points then my elaboration will follow:


There are two types of Shirk:


1) To take other entities as gods in addition to the One and only God


2) To obey man made laws that were called by them as divine laws (religious laws) from God


The first type of Shirk must involve physical worshipping to those other entities that have been made gods, on the other hand the second type of shirk (the most common and disguised one) does not involve physical worshipping to those men who made these man made laws rather OBEYING WHAT THEY SAY AS IF IT IS DIVINE FROM GOD, they also think that if these man made laws are not adhered to then they will commit Kufr (disbelief), can you see how it constitutes Shirk?, simply it does because they took these laws as being part of the religion sent by the One and only God, I know this is going to be very hard on many Muslims, it was really hard on me myself a few years back, but Al hamdullelah I refused to continue submitting to what I was fed with since I was a child, it is sort of like being programmed indeed, exactly like how the Christians are programmed, NO BLOODY DIFFERENCE.


To tackle this huge problem facing all Muslims I decided to find what Shirk is according to the Quran, i.e. according to the One and only God, not according to any man made concepts, what I found in the Quran that when Allah talks about the first type of Shirk, He asks the Mushrikoon, <b>”Where is MY PARTNERS”</b>, <b>“Shurakaei”</b>, it looks like this in Arabic <b>” شُرَكَآئِيَ”</b>, can you see how it was said using <b>”MY”</b>, i.e. partners who are gods like Him.


When Allah talks about the second type of Shirk , He asks the Mushrikoon, <b>”Where is YOUR PARTNERS”</b>, <b>“ Shurakaakum”</b>, it looks like this in Arabic <b>” شُرَكَآؤُكُمُ”</b>, can you see how it was said using <b>”YOUR”</b>, it can also be said as <b>“ Shurakaahum”</b> <b>” شُرَكَآؤُهُمْ”</b>, <b>”Their partners”</b> i.e. partners who are the least humans like them but not gods, those human partners (the least) whom were obeyed in laws that were made RELIGIOUS LAWS and have been associated to the One and Only God as if it is ordained by Him.


I know this is tough to comprehend, well the Quran should make this matter clear to us, let’s look at a few verses:


Here is an example showing Allah talking about the first type of Shirk:


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Then, on the Day of Judgment, He will cover them with shame, and say: Where are My 'partners' concerning whom ye used to dispute (with the godly)? Those endued with knowledge will say: This Day, indeed, are the Unbelievers covered with shame and misery,-


<i>[The Quran ; 16:27]</i>


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ثُمَّ يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ يُخْزِيهِمْ وَيَقُولُ أَيْنَ شُرَكَآئِيَ الَّذِينَ كُنتُمْ تُشَاقُّونَ فِيهِمْ قَالَ الَّذِينَ أُوتُواْ الْعِلْمَ إِنَّ الْخِزْيَ الْيَوْمَ وَالْسُّوءَ عَلَى الْكَافِرِينَ (27)





-> See what Allah will say to the Mushrikoon type I on the JD: <b>”أَيْنَ شُرَكَآئِيَ”</b>, i.e. <b>” Where are My partners”</b>. see the <b>”MY”</b>


Next it will be said to them to call for those partners (gods like Allah):


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One Day He will say, Call on those whom ye thought to be My partners, and they will call on them, but they will not listen to them; and We shall make for them a place of common perdition.


<i>[The Quran ; 18:52]</i>


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وَيَوْمَ يَقُولُ نَادُوا شُرَكَائِيَ الَّذِينَ زَعَمْتُمْ فَدَعَوْهُمْ فَلَمْ يَسْتَجِيبُوا لَهُمْ وَجَعَلْنَا بَيْنَهُم مَّوْبِقًا (52)





-> Again see how it was said:<b>” نَادُوا شُرَكَائِيَ الَّذِينَ زَعَمْتُمْ”</b>, <b>” Call on those whom ye thought to be My partners”</b>, see <b>”MY”</b> is used in the verse, i.e. Allah is saying <b>“MY PARTNERS”</b>, i.e. gods like Him. And that is the first type of Shirk, the word <b>” شُرَكَائِيَ”</b>, <b>”Shurakaai”</b> <b>”My Partners”</b> was only used 5 times in the whole Quran (16:27, 18:52, 28:62, 28:74 & 41:47)


<b>To be continued...</b>

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  a friend sent me this... lets refute
Posted by: Al-fateh - 04-07-2007, 02:31 PM - Forum: Islam - Replies (3)


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Quote:Here are some questions....could you please pass this on to your friends.....the challenge is ....are we susceptible to change by keeping an open mind and accepting the truth...
Did you know that the Quran was written approximately 150 years after Muhammed died. Now Muhammad was illiterate and couldn’t read nor write so hence it is impossible for someone to copy exactly word for word without misinterpreting the concept and message especially as nothing was documented in those days. Now you and I both know that to learn something even a page it has to be read and re-read numerous amounts of times before one can memorize and then how much will one forget in your busy lives. These messages has to pass a generation as well. So was the Qumran really Muhammad’s or Gods message or was this simply a military tactic to strengthen an army and attack and conquer for power and we all know that after the book was established there were wars fought and lands invaded in the name of religion and conversion where people died/raped- what in the name of religion...please understand this for yourselves and don’t get caught in the web of deceit...save yourselves.


Another important fact-Muhammad had to flee from Mecca to Medina as his life was in danger when he tried to tell all that he saw an angel who spoke to him…keep in mind this angel would have had to speak to him for days to give him all the details and since Muhammad could not read nor write he would have had to memorize this and completely understand the concept of what was being said as per the script…this is IMPOSSIBLE…THINK FOR YOURSELVES…now as he said he saw an angel and wanted to make certain changes in the kabba ..you know remove all the statues and have just he senior most. The elders were angry and threatened and so Muhammad fled Mecca. When in Medina he formed a band of people and they raided and plundered and killed for years to become rich and until he had an army large enough to go back and wage war to Mecca. In a bloodless coup he managed to take over Mecca. This is a violent man in search for power......second only to the man who finally wrote the Quran as Gods message and then waging war in his conquests….


Here is more…..


Identified are many elements of pagan worship that Muhammad grafted directly into Islam virtually unchanged.


The symbols, the temples, the rituals of modern Islam were practiced by Polytheists before Muhammad was born. Islam is repackaged Polytheism. "Polytheism with a monotheistic veil".


Modern day...copy and paste method... so what did he really contribute... the answer is noting…please read on for the real truth…..


1) Is it TRUE- Muhammad in his youth participated in worshipping all the 360 pagan gods in the Kabah. He was influenced by the Christians ..


Monotheists who condemned polytheism and Muhammad was convinced this was wrong so he sought to reject those 360 Gods he grew up worshipping.


However, being a proud Arab bent on preserving his traditions and so started a different religion; he took the top pagan god in the Kabah called Hubal or Allah and chose this to be his monotheistic god.


Rather than converting all the Arab people to the monotheism of Christianity, Muhammad merely banished the other 359 pagan gods and chose the one remaining to be the one and only god... what Muslims refer to today as "Allah". Thus Islam was born.


Historians have identified many elements of pagan worship that Muhammad grafted directly into Islam virtually unchanged.


The symbols, the temples and the rituals of modern Islam were practiced by polytheists before Muhammad was born. Islam is Repackaged Polytheism. "Polytheism with a monotheistic veil.


2) Is this TRUE- Archaeologists contradict this claim- the “sound” Hadith itself makes it impossible for Abraham and Ishmael to be the ones who built the Kabah: "I said, "O Allah's Apostle! Which mosque was built first?" He replied, "Al-Masjid-ul-Haram." I asked, "Which (was built) next?" He replied, "Al-Masjid-ul-Aqs-a (i.e. Jerusalem)." I asked, "What was the period in between them?" He replied, "Forty (years)." He then added, "Wherever the time for the prayer comes upon you, perform the prayer, for all the earth is a place of worshipping for you."" (Hadith, Sahih al-Bukhari55:636, Narrated Abu Dhaar). This Hadith affirms that the Kaba was actually built long after Abraham and Ishmael had died. Abraham lived about 2000 BC and the Temple was built by Solomon in about 958-951 BC. This implies that the Kabah was built approximately 998-991 BC. If Muhammad is correct, then the Quran is wrong. But if the Quran is correct in stating that Abraham and Ishmael built the Kaba, then the Hadith is wrong. Yet, if this particular Hadith is wrong then this throws into question the authenticity of the entire Hadith collections, especially Bukhari's collection which is considered to be the most reliable and authentic collection


3) Is it TRUE- the Pilgrimage to Mecca: "A principal public celebration of the Arabians was an annual pilgrimage, in which tribes who shared a common bond of worship of a deity at a specific sanctuary would reunite there? A pattern of ceremonial procession around the baetyl [the sacred stone] was common, and this pattern may be seen in the surviving Islamic custom of the pilgrimage to Mecca." (Britannica, Arabian Religions, p1059, 1979) Muhammad merely borrowed this wide spread polytheistic worship style and adopted it into Islam as a central rite, same polytheistic pilgrimage under the disguise of a modified monotheism. It is true that in the hajj many pre-Islamic practices were retained, but as has been shown above, the origin of these practices is traceable to Abraham, and every one of them carries with it a spiritual significance. (The Religion ofIslam, Maulana Muhammad Ali, p. 448, 1936, Muslim).


4) Is it TRUE- Praying 5 times a day: Polytheistic worshippers prayed 5 times a day towards their local kava’s. "The Sabeans have five prayers similar to the five prayers of the Muslims. Others say they have seven prayers, five of which are comparable to the prayers of the Muslims with regard to time [that is, morning, noon, afternoon, evening and night; the sixth is at midnight and the seventh is at forenoon]. It is their practice to pray over the dead without kneeling down or even bending the knee. They also fast for one lunar month of thirty days; they start their fast at the last watch of the night and continue till the setting of the sun. Some of their sects fast during the month of Ramadan, face Ka'ba when they pray, venerate Mecca, and believe in making the pilgrimage to it. They consider dead bodies, blood and the flesh of pigs as unlawful. They also forbid marriage for the same reasons as do Muslims." (Bulugh al-'Arab fi Ahwal al-Arab, Muhammad Shukri al-Alusi, Vol 1, p 121-122, Muslim) Prior to Islam the people would pray 5 times a day facing Mecca (The Encyclopedia of Islam p. 303)


Worshippers in pagan Sabian religion that worshipped stars were "obliged to pray three times a day" (Preliminary Discourse to the Koran, Sale, 1801) At first, Muhammad prayed towards Jerusalem, but when he was rejected by the Jews, started directing hisprayers towards Mecca.


Today, monotheistic Muslims pray 5 times a day towards Mecca to Allah. Muhammad grafted this pagan practice into Islam.


5) Is it TRUE- Holy days (friday/fasting during Ramadan): Polytheistic pilgrimage required fasting for the month that begins and ends with the crescent moon for each pagan god. During the holy month of Ramadan (November) Muslims begin and end month long fast exactly the same time and manner as the polytheism that pre-dated Muhammad. Muslim practices such as gathering on Friday and the four sacred months of Islam were also pre-Islamic customs: "In Bulugh al-'Arab fi Ahwal al-'Arab, we read,'The four sacred months, Rajab, Dhu al-Qa'da, Dhu al-Hijja and Muharram, had been considered sacred during the pre-Islamic period [Jahiliya]. Raids, taking revenge, war, fighting and disputes were forbidden during them. If a man were to meet his enemy whokilled his father or brother during these months, he would not quarrel with him... During the sacred months, [the people] were under restriction not to fight or make raids, and had to remove [their] spearheads as a sign that they would avoid fighting at all costs.'Obviously, Islam borrowed the hallowing of these months from Pre-Islamic Arabsand introduced nothing new into the world." (Is the Qur'an Infallible?, 'Abdallah 'Abd al-Fadi, Light of Life, , p. 127)


6) Is it TRUE- CRESCENT MOON/THE RUN/THE THROW?


*The crescent moon symbol was used since 2100 BC in paganism. Polytheism has extensively used the symbol of the crescent moon as far back as Abraham as hundreds of archeological examples verify. All the Arabs at the Kaba in Mecca worshipped the moon god Hubal. Crescent moon is the official symbol of Islam on top of every Mosque in the world and beside the Kaba on top of the Maqam Ibrahim! It is the last remaining polytheistic remnant of ancient moon worship under a new sanitized monotheistic veil.


*Pagans performed a fast walk between As-Safa and Al-Marwah. Muhammad redefined the meaning while retaining the ritual. Islamic pilgrimage requires a fast walk between As-Safa and Al-Marwah


*The polytheistic pilgrimages required throwing stones at the devil. Muhammad retained this concept where the Islamic pilgrimage requires throwing pebbles at three fixed points in Mina, which represent evil. The pilgrim throws rocks over his shoulder at the three stone pillars which he has been told will frighten away the "djinn" or demons which the stone pillars represent.


8) Is it TRUE- Allah: "The verses of the Qur’an make it clear that the very name Allah existed in the Jahiliyya or pre-Islamic Arabia? Certain pagan tribes believed in a god whom they called ‘Allah’ and whom they believed to be the creator of heaven and earth and ho

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  Proclaiming Allâh, the All-High; and the Immediate Constituents
Posted by: Al-fateh - 04-07-2007, 02:23 AM - Forum: Islam - Replies (1)


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The first Revelation sent to the Prophet implied several injunctions, simple in form but highly effective and of serious far-reaching ramifications. The angel communicated to him a manifest Message saying:


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# "O you (Muhammad ) enveloped (in garments)! Arise and warn! And your Lord (Allâh) magnify! And your garments purify! And keep away from Ar-Rujz (the idols). And give not a thing in order to have more (or consider not your deeds of Allâh’s obedience as a favour to Allâh). And be patient for the sake of your Lord (i.e. perform your duty to Allâh)!" [74:1-7]


For convenience and ease of understanding, we are going to segment the Message into its immediate constituents:


1. The ultimate objective of warning is to make sure that no one breaching the pleasures of Allâh in the whole universe is ignorant of the serious consequences that his behaviour entails, and to create a sort of unprecedented shock within his mind and heart.


2. ‘Magnifying the Lord’ dictates explicitly that the only pride allowed to nourish on the earth is exclusively Allâh’s to the exclusion of all the others’.


3. ‘Cleansing the garments and shunning all aspects of abomination’ point directly to the indispensable need to render both the exterior and interior exceptionally chaste and pure, in addition to the prerequisite of sanctifying the soul and establishing it highly immune against the different sorts of impurities and the various kinds of pollutants. Only through this avenue can the soul of the Prophet reach an ideal status and become eligible to enjoy the shady mercy of Allâh and His protection, security, guidance and ever-shining light; and will consequently set the highest example to the human community, attract the sound hearts and inspire awe and reverence in the stray ones in such a manner that all the world, in agreement or disagreement, will head for it and take it as the rock-bed in all facets of their welfare.


4. The Prophet must not regard his strife in the way of Allâh as a deed of grace that entitles him to a great reward. On the contrary, he has to exert himself to the utmost, dedicate his whole efforts and be ready to offer all sacrifices in a spirit of self-forgetfulness enveloped by an ever-present awareness of Allâh, without the least sense of pride in his deeds or sacrifices.


5. The last verse of the Qur’ân revealed to the Prophet alludes to the hostile attitude of the obdurate disbelievers, who will jeer at him and his followers. They are expected to disparage him and step up their malice to the point of scheming against his life and lives of all the believers around him. In this case he has got to be patient and is supposed to persevere and display the highest degree of stamina for the sole purpose of attaining the pleasure of Allâh.


These were the basic preliminaries that the Prophet had to observe, very simple injunctions in appearance, greatly fascinating in their calm rhythm, but highly effective in practice. They constituted the trigger that aroused a far-ranging tempest in all the corners of the world.


The verses comprise the constituents of the new call and propagation of the new faith. A warning logically implies that there are malpractices with painful consequences to be sustained by the perpetrators, and since the present life is not necessarily the only room to bring people to account for their misdeeds or some of them, then the warning would necessarily imply calling people to account on another day, i.e. the Day of Resurrection, and this per se suggests the existence of a life other than this one we are living. All the verses of the Noble Qur’ân call people to testify explicitly to the Oneness of Allâh, to delegate all their affairs to Allâh, the All-High, and to subordinate the desires of the self and the desires of Allâh’s servants to the attainment of His Pleasures.


The constituents of the call to Islam could, briefly speaking, go as follows:


1. Testimony to the Oneness of Allâh.


2. Belief in the Hereafter.


3. Sanctifying one’s soul and elevating it high above evils and abominations that conduce to terrible consequences, besides this, there is the dire need for virtues and perfect manners coupled with habituating oneself to righteous deeds.


4. Committing one’s all affairs to Allâh, the All-High.


5. All the foregoing should run as a natural corollary to unwavering belief in Muhammad’s Message, and abidance by his noble leadership and righteous guidance.


The verses have been prefaced, in the voice of the Most High, by a heavenly call mandating the Prophet to undertake this daunting responsibility (calling people unto Allâh). The verses meant to extract him forcibly out of his sleep, divest him of his mantle and detach him from the warmth and quiet of life, and then drive him down a new course attended with countless hardships, and requiring a great deal of strife in the way of Allâh:


# "O you (Muhammad ) enveloped (in garments)! Arise and warn." [74:1-2]


Suggesting that to live to oneself is quite easy, but it has been decided that you have to shoulder this heavy burden; consequently sleep, comfort, or warm bed are items decreed to be alien in your lexicon of life. O Muhammad, arise quickly for the strife and toil awaiting you; no time is there for sleep and such amenities; grave responsibilities have been Divinely determined to fall to your lot, and drive you into the turmoil of life to develop a new sort of precarious affinity with the conscience of people and the reality of life.


The Prophet managed quite successfully to rise to his feet and measure up to the new task, he went ahead in a spirit of complete selflessness, relentlessly striving and never abating in carrying the burden of the great Trust, the burden of enlightening mankind, and the heavy weight of the new faith and strife for over twenty years, nothing distracting his attention from the awesome commission. May Allâh reward him, for us and all humanity, the best ending. The following research at hand gives an account in miniature of his long strive and uninterrupted struggle he made after receiving the ministry of Messengership.[]

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  Holy Week and Pork!!
Posted by: wel_mel_2 - 04-07-2007, 01:41 AM - Forum: Discussion of Beliefs - Replies (12)


Bismillah: Assalamo Alikum.


I just heard from my catholic friends, that they are not allowed to eat pork during their Holy Week; they actually don’t know the reason… so is there any Christian member here who can clarify this point?


<b>Why only during the Holy Week, Christians are not allowed to eat pork?</b>


Thanks and Salam


Wael.

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  Married Priests Available!
Posted by: wel_mel_2 - 04-07-2007, 01:28 AM - Forum: Discussion of Beliefs - Replies (6)


Bismillah: Assalamo Alikum.


I found the following to be very interesting!!! Priests but married??!!


Salam


Wael.




Quote:To: RELIGION EDITORS
Contact: CITI Ministries, Inc., +1-800-774-3789, Fax: +1-207-729-7674, citi@rentapriest.com


BRUNSWICK, Maine, March 26 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Holy Week and Easter services, considered among the most holy in the Catholic Church, will not take place in many of the U.S. parishes this year due to a severe shortage of priests. Recent and continuing sexual abuse revelations have resulted in shortfalls and churches closing in most dioceses, leaving parishioners with no Lenten or other rituals. Nursing homes and other institutions are also without sacramental or pastoral assistance.


Rentapriest.com, a free referral service of CITI Ministries (Celibacy Is the Issue) offers contact information for married priests in almost every state. They are available for confession, Mass, blessings and other Holy Week services in parishes, public halls, private homes as well as nursing homes, prisons and other institutions.


Church law has provisions for the use of married priests either in or out of the church building, when no priest is available, providing the request comes from the people of God. Church law also says that "practice can become law" in the church (Canon Law #27). Many are reminded that female altar servers were not allowed in the 1980s. However, parishes just ignored the Vatican dictates and used them anyway. The same can happen with married priests.


Over 70,000 individuals have been spiritually served by married priests over the past 10 years. Baptisms, marriages, anointing of the sick, funerals, in-home Mass are just a few examples. According to founder/president Louise Haggett, "CITI is not a protest organization. We see our work as an adjunct to the church, which has been quietly applauded by several bishops. We exist only to provide ministry where needed because of the tremendous shortages. We also serve many people who have been turned away by the Catholic institution: divorced Catholics, interfaith situations and others. Jesus never turned anyone away. Neither will married priests."


More information and a list of priests are available at http://www.rentapriest.com or by calling 1-800-PRIEST 9 (774-3789). According to Haggett, "No one should be without Easter services, and it's unlikely that any hierarchical figure will stop parishes from inviting married priests without permission. Several home Masses are already scheduled to celebrate during Holy Week. These are listed on the website, http://www.rentapriest.com."


SOURCE CITI Ministries, Inc.

Married Priests Available for Holy Week

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  O Muslims Don’t Sympathise With Terrorist or their Ideology
Posted by: abdulwalee - 04-06-2007, 06:46 PM - Forum: General - Replies (5)



Excerpts taken from an article from Ash-Sharaq Al-Awsat


By Abdul Muhsin Al-‘Ubaykaan (A senior scholar from Saudi Arabia)


There is no doubt that every Muslim, who is eagerly concerned about their religion and enthusiastic to (protect) the reputation of their nation, is delighted to hear about the decline of a deviant ideology that is attributed to Islam, when in reality it does nothing but smear (the religions) true image.


A deviant Kharajite ideology that has declared the blood of the Muslims and innocent non-Muslims to be lawful game; it has relished in pronouncing Muslims to be infidels, and it has vigorously endeavoured to destroy and bomb. (An ideology) that has stained the image of Islam and the Muslims, and it has caused many evils which cannot be enumerated and cannot be calculated by any one person.


This Kharijite ideology has produced many ills. From them: this malicious onslaught against the Muslims in general- emanating from many different angles, assaults upon the methods of teaching practised in the Muslim lands, (it has been utilized) as a blockade to the Book and the Sunnah, occupation of Muslim lands, and the captivation of innocent people due to mere speculation. All of this has resulted from this chaos and confusion, and from the war between (the lunatics) of Al-Qaa’idah and certain countries.


Yes, the fact that this ideology has begun to vanish, its symbolic figures are being humiliated and its leaders are falling brings joy to the heart. But sadly we see some of the Muslims continuing to show sympathy to The likes of Usama Bin Laden or to whoever will replace him. Az-Zarqaawee who adopted the wretched ideology of Al-Qaa’idah, this is no more than the belief of the Kharijite, Takfeeris; and it has not brought any benefit to the Muslims whatsoever.


These sympathisers feign blindness to these barbaric, criminal acts, perpetrated by these terrorist and their organizations. organisation inside and outside of Iraq, that oppose (the laws) of the religion and that cannot be fathomed by sound intellectual reasoning. It is visible to everyone with two eyes to see that terrorist acts are not only traceable to Iraq; rather they have spread to other places. These deviants have (monstrous) ambitions in many arenas; An example of this is the bombings that occurred in Jordan and massacred those inviolable souls.


Islam is totally innocent of these ideologies and misguided acts. Even Jihad in the path of Allah has stipulations and guidelines that have to be met.


Using the name of Islam and (a twisted) understanding of Jihad to spread anarchy in the ranks of the Muslims, declare their blood and wealth to be lawful, cause disunity and division, weaken their position, empower their opponents against them and blemish the appearance of Islam in the most awful manner- acts such as slaughtering a human by slicing their jugular vein and then showing this to millions through the media outlets- has led to some people fleeing from Islam and detesting the Muslims, because the activities of these weirdoes that have nothing to do with Islam or the Muslims.


Translated by Hassan As-Somali

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  Adhan Ban Sparks Furor in Mauritius
Posted by: wel_mel_2 - 04-06-2007, 01:56 AM - Forum: Current Affairs - No Replies


Bismillah: Assalamo Alikum.


IslamOnline.Net


By Nasseem Ackbarally, IOL Correspondent


Muslim politicians and scholars discuss the issue in the Muslim College in Port Louis. (IOL Photo)


PORT-LOUIS, Mauritius — Muslims and non-Muslims in Mauritius have rejected in unison a court ruling banning the use of loudspeakers in raising the Adhan (Muslim call to prayer), warning that it could jeopardise social harmony in the southern African country.


"Muslims have never ever protested against the construction of other places of worship," Fouad Uteene, head of the Muslim Citizen Council, told IslamOnline.net.


"They have never asked Chinese people to stop lighting firecrackers to mark their religious festivals nor churches to stop ringing the bell. Why do they want to stop us from raising the Adhan from loudspeakers," he wondered.


The Supreme Court has ordered late last month the local authority in Quatre-Bornes, a town 20 km south of the capital Port-Louis, to remove loudspeakers of the main Hidayat-Ul-Ilsam mosque after one resident filed a lawsuit, arguing that he was annoyed by the loud voice of the Muezzin (the man who calls for prayers).


Muslims raise the Adhan five times a day.


The verdict was based on a law enacted decades ago, prohibiting the use of loudspeakers, amplifiers and car horns noisily.Offenders are fined 500 rupees.


The law, however, is not enforced strictly as authorities condone, for instance, Chinese fire cracks marking religious festivals.


"It is shocking to hear some people say that they are allergic to this call for prayers," said Nissar Ramtoola, the imam of Jummah Masjid in Port-Louis, adding that it is offensive to call Adhan noise.


Sheela Mohunparsad, the secretary of a Hindu temple in Goodlands, agreed.


"In our region, everybody practise his religion calmly and we do not consider Adhan as a nuisance," he told IOL.


"Instead, it helps us to get up early in the morning, not only for going to work but also when we are fasting."


Muslims make up 16.6% of population in Mauritius. Hindus are a majority with 48% followed by Roman Catholics at 23.6%, according to the CIA's World Fact Book.


Social Harmony


"This could harm the social fabric in the island," warned Mohamed. (IOL Photo)


Muslims and non-Muslims were especially worried that the ruling could cast a cloud over the country's social harmony.


"This could harm the social fabric in the island," Muslim lawyer and politician Shakeel Mohamed warned.


He said Mauritius is neither an Islamic nor a Hindu nor a Christian country.


"This makes the beauty of this island," Mohamed added.


The lawyer warned that the verdict could further have a domino effect on other places of worship like temples and churches, which also use loudspeakers in some rituals.


"The law as it stands prohibits the use of loudspeakers outside a place of worship," he said.


Mohamed said the verdict also threatens the major religious festivities in the country as the faithful are used, for instance, to using fireworks for celebration.


"The social fabric of the island may become fragile if Mauritius would have to go without Eid, Bakr-Eid, Maha Shivaratree, Ougadi and other religious festivals," he said, mentioning the names of major Muslim and Hindu festivals.


Dheeraj Seetulsingh, chairperson of the National Commission for Human Rights, said it is an inalienable right for Muslims to raise the Adhan and for Christians to ring church bells.


"We have accepted the sound of bells, the voice of the Muezzin and others in a spirit of tolerance," he said, stressing that freedom of religion was guaranteed by the Constitution.


Following the court ruling, hundreds of Muslims took to the streets, urging authorities to repeal the controversial verdict.


Muslim activist Areff Bahemia also warned of massive protests in the coming days if the court ruling was not repealed.


Amendment


Lord-Mayor of Port-Louis Reza Issack is against the ban on Adhan, uring officials in the town at issue to reverse it. (IOL Photo)


Lord-Mayor of Port-Louis Reza Issack said the municipality of the town at issue should amend regulations to help cement social harmony in the country, adding that he will take the initiative.


"We’ll amend the regulations as soon as possible because a judgment cannot disturb the racial harmony that exists since so many years in Mauritius," he said.


Ian Ernest, Archbishop of the Anglican Church, called for a compromise.


"On one side, there is the fundamental right of people to live in peace and tranquillity and on the other there is the fundamental right to religious practice," he said.


"We should find a compromise between personal comfort and religious tradition."


The Council of Religions also stepped in.


"This is not a problem between two communities on the island," the council said in a press release. "We suggest the setting up of an independent platform assembling experts in human rights, religions and in laws to work together on this issue."


However, Hindu Priest Pandit Ved Gopee reminds Muslims and non-Muslims of the recent visit made by South's Africa renowned bishop Desmond Tutu.


"He came to help us consolidate the brotherhood that exists among the different communities of the island. Now we are starting something bad," he said.

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  Foreigners killed in Dammaj, Yemen
Posted by: abdulwalee - 04-05-2007, 06:10 PM - Forum: Current Affairs - No Replies



Thursday, March 29, 2007


Two Students killed in Dar al-Hadith by Followers of Al-Houthi.


- Dammaj, Yemen


Just like the last round of sad news, it seems two foreign Stuents of Knowledge were killed in Yemen.


The following is my brief translation of this Arabic Article published yesterday. I came across it last night.


According to official sources, two foreign students --on of them of French nationality-- were killed today in an attack on students of the Dar al-Hadith institute in the village of Dammaj. This attack, the first of it's kind, was carried out by followers of al-Houthi, a local Shiitie Rebel Leader.


According to some local Yemeni websites:


The encounter took place when some of al-Houthi's followers attacked a group of students from the Salafi institute.


The students "were standing guard, which was a newly enforced measure" after the Government had reportedly "armed them and a groupd of students from the Salafi institute to confront the followers of al-Houti."


The encounter took place "during the passing of a patrol of al-Houthi's followers in the area".


Some sources in San`aa', close to the Administration of the institute reaffirmed, "The Institute commonly stays under tight security measures." He also negated the "possibility of suporters of the Institute taking part in any armed confrontation with al-Houthi's followers in the Sa`dah region." Saying, "Our task is one of Da`wah (Islamic Propagation), not a Military one. We don't take part in any armed struggle against that Rafidhi (Shiite) Rebellion which is present in the villages around the city of Sa`dah." The source also mentioned his sorrow on hearing news of the institute in Dammaj coming under armed attack. He went on to say, "The Institute was established by Shaikh Muqbil bin Haadee al-Waadi`ee --rahimahullah (may Allah have mercy on him)-- more than two decades ago and the people of the area have never known it to be anything other than a peaceful institution which calls to Allah through speech and intellect. Leaving 'Da`wah by hand' (using forecul measures) to the Authorities."


He added that, "Despite the fact that Shaikh Muqbil and his followers would openly call to Allah and denouncing Shirk (Polytheism), Bid`ah (Innovation in religious matters) and Rafdh (Being of Shiite methodology), the School has never been associated with any armed encounter." He then reaffirmed that, "The Center will continue the task of Shaikh Muqbil by defending the Sunnah (teachings of Prophet Muhammad) and defense of the Companions of the Prophet --sallallaahi `alaihi wa sallam (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him)-- and the correct teachings of Islam, regardless of how many attempts there are to hamper it."


The source, who asked to remain anonymous, also fiercely refuted the notion that al-Houthi's followers conceal hatred for the Salafi Da`wah."


He found it strange that, "Some people are trying to make this a sectarian conflict. This (al-Houthi's followers) is an oppressive group that has rebelled against the Government. It is the Government, now, who strives to execute its authority in the region, keen on the service of its citizens", as he put it.


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May Allah have mercy on our brothers and allow the Government to find those Rafidhi filth and take them to account for what they did.


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Update (March 31, 2007): According to Reuters and the AFP, it seems the other casualty was a British brother. The authorities seemed to have named him "Patrick" only. Thee was a French-Algerian brother that was wounded. According to multiple news sources, the were standing security during the night, protecting the school.


Update (April 3, 2007): One of my Yemeni classmates said that there was a call mde from a brother in Dammaj stating that the actual persons killed were one French and one Yemeni student. There were three students wounded, one of them was a French-Algerian

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  what is needed to teach islam?
Posted by: Al-fateh - 04-05-2007, 04:40 PM - Forum: Islam - Replies (4)

what is needed to teach islam?

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  "Anti-Zionist" Neturei Karta Synagogue Burned
Posted by: Muslimah - 04-05-2007, 06:22 AM - Forum: General - No Replies


In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful


"Anti-Zionist" Neturei Karta Synagogue Burned


WASHINGTON, DC - Apr. 3, 2007 (MASNET) The Neturei Karta Orthodox Jewish community has been in the forefront of the national struggle demanding basic human rights and justice for the people of Palestine. They have stood on numerous occasions with MAS and the Muslim community when we demonstrated for the rights of the Palestinian people. Their principled stand has angered many members of the U.S. Jewish community who are uncritical of policies of Israel, particularly the policy of occupation and the ongoing attempt by Israel to wage economic warfare on the residents of Gaza and the West Bank.


As the official investigation of the destruction of their Synagogue proceeds, we of the Muslim American Society offer our prayers and condolences to Rabbi Dovid Weiss and the entire Neturei Karta community. May Allah (SWT) grant them ease and relief in this time of tragedy.


An article about the fire is reprinted below


"Anti-Zionist" Neturei Karta Synagogue Burned


A suspicious fire destroyed the synagogue and residence of a senior rabbi of a Jewish group that angered many Jews by attended a Holocaust denial conference in Iran. No one was injured in the blaze Sunday night at Yeshivas Bais Yehudi in Monsey, N.Y.


Local police and fire investigators said the fire was deemed suspicious because Neturei Karta, the anti-Zionist, fervently Orthodox group has been the target of threats, a local newspaper reported on its Web site. Neturei Karta members attended an Iran-sponsored Holocaust denial conference in December. Police would not confirm with The Associated Press whether the blaze was considered suspicious.


Rabbi Yisroel Dovid of Neturei Karta said that the group suspects arson because of previous threats. "There's no question that the issue is to stifle the opposition to Zionism," he told AP by telephone early Monday morning.

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