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Posted by SisterJennifer - 04-30-2006, 12:18 PM

Asalaamu alikum,

I think it was in poor judgement to place this post here and in this manner. I know some of you will not agree with me but if these were my kids (and in a sense they are) in these pictures I would be terribly offended to see them used and spread about in this way. These are humans who deserve to be treated with dignity not like circus side show freaks.

I do realize that they can be used to educate people as well and if that is the intention I think better to present them in a dignified and respectful way. Why violate their humanity even further?

May Allah guide us all to the right path, Ameen

With love,

Jennifer

Posted by arclight - 04-30-2006, 11:21 AM

I know you've a point to make, and an axe to grind, but its there any need to post some of those pictures? No matter how many times I see miscarried babies, it still makes me queasy.

I'm guessing that your blaming depleted uranium for these miscarriages? Well I've seen plenty like those pictures here in the UK, well away from DU. I don't doubt that theres a health risk from DU, but only come into spent ammunition. The area off effect from used DU is pretty small, and I can't imagine many pregnant women clambering over burnt out tanks.

Without any real proof, other than emotive photo's, you could in fact be clouding other causes. 1 in 7 UK pregnancies end in miscarriage, and thats well away from any DU. Given the tension in Iraq, there would be an expected increase in miscarriages anyway. It could even be down to a shortage of food, or medical supplies.

Posted by Faris_Mee - 04-30-2006, 11:13 AM

False Allegations Regarding Depleted Uranium

Rumors of adverse health effects proved inaccurate

There is a great deal of misinformation and unwarranted fears about depleted uranium (DU), which U.S. armed forces use in several types of ammunition to take advantage of its unsurpassed ability to penetrate armored vehicles.

Depleted uranium is a derivative of natural uranium, a very common element in our environment. Many people don't realize that our environment contains small amounts of natural uranium, which we breathe, eat, and drink every day.

U-235 and U-234 are the highly radioactive isotopes in natural uranium, extracted to make nuclear fuel or enriched weapons-grade uranium. Depleted uranium is what is left over after much of these highly radioactive isotopes have been removed. Depleted uranium is actually 40% less radioactive than the natural uranium in the environment around us, and much less radioactive than fuel-grade or weapons-grade uranium. Unfortunately, most people confuse depleted uranium with these dangerous substances.

The Health Effects of Depleted Uranium

In April 2001, the World Health Organization report Depleted Uranium: Sources, Exposure, and Health Effects, stated: "no increase of leukemia or other cancers has been established following exposure to uranium or depleted uranium." (chapter 13, p. 132)

A March 2001 European Commission report concluded, "exposure to DU could not produce any detectable effect on human health under realistic assumptions of the doses that would be received." (p. 11)

A January 2001 NATO study found that, "based on the data today, no link has been established between depleted uranium and any forms of cancer."

In 1999, a RAND Corporation study on depleted uranium concluded: "no evidence is documented in the literature of cancer or any other negative health effect related to the radiation received from exposure to natural uranium, whether inhaled or ingested, even in very high doses." (chapter 2, pp. 36-37)

Perhaps the most dramatic illustration of the lack of a link between depleted uranium and cancer is the case of 20 Gulf War veterans who were struck by shrapnel from depleted uranium shells that hit the armored vehicles in which they were riding. Some have shrapnel pieces up to 20 mm long still embedded in their bodies. The veterans have very high levels of uranium in their urine samples, but not one has developed leukemia, bone cancer, lung cancer, or any kidney abnormalities, despite the fact that they are walking around with depleted uranium inside their bodies. In addition, none of the children born to any of these men has any reported birth defects. A study of these veterans, "Elevated Urine Uranium Excretion by Soldiers with Retained Uranium Shrapnel," published in the November 1999 issue of Health Physics concluded, "there is no evidence of adverse clinical outcomes associated with uranium exposure at this time in any of these individuals."

Accusations that depleted uranium has caused cancer in Iraqi newborns are groundless. In fact, Iraq's use of chemical weapons -- known cancer-causing
agents -- is a much more likely cause of the cancers and birth defects blamed on depleted uranium.

Independent studies have shown large increases in cancers and birth defects where the Iraqi regime has used chemical weapons. According to Dr. Fouad Baban, Chairman of the Department of Medicine of Suleymania University in northern Iraq, "congenital abnormality rates" in Halabja, where the Iraqi regime killed 5,000 Kurds with chemical weapons in 1988, are "four to five times greater than in the post-atomic populations of Hiroshima and Nagasaki." Dr. Baban says, "rare and aggressive cancers in adults and children are found at levels far higher than anywhere in the world."

For accurate, authoritative information on depleted uranium, see information from:

• The United Nation's International Atomic Energy Agency

• The U.S. Department of Defense's Health Deployment Directorate

• The UK Ministry of Defence

Created: 14 Jan 2005 Updated: 09 Dec 2005

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Posted by Faris_Mee - 04-30-2006, 09:58 AM

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Posted by Faris_Mee - 04-30-2006, 09:54 AM

Bismillah

as salam alykom

I had to remove the pics, I fully agree with sisterjennifer, i m sure brother Faris was just enthusiatic and emotional over the Muslim babies. however in Islam, we cannt spread the Awara (parts that must be covered) of the dead who must be fully respected and burried. Also we cannt even probagate scenes of badly injured children in order to make a point. The point can be made while we do respect them Insh aAllah no harm is done.

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