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| Posted by Muslimah - 04-11-2005, 12:57 PM |
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Bismillah r u referring to the US basis in Saudi Arabia??? |
| Posted by Al Furqaan - 04-11-2005, 12:06 PM |
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[img]style_emoticons/default/blink.gif[/img] Hijaz liberated? Funniest thing I heard for a long time. [img]style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif[/img] |
| Posted by radiyah - 02-07-2005, 07:47 PM |
Quote:<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="umm Zachariah" data-cite="umm Zachariah" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="2408" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> Assalamu aleikum, Wassalaam, To cater for the increasing numbers of hajjis, why do the Saudis not knock down the near-by hotels and re-build them further away so more pilgrims can be catered for? I feel the Saudis "bend over backwards" at time of hajj so they can make the ummah realise that they are the custodians of the two masjids, even though they bought blood to the 2 masajids! </div></blockquote> Bismillah Al-salam 'alaykom Brother Deen, that is what they are already doing, there are are 2 projects that they started to market for them and i think they started building this one I remember its name the other I don't recall it Tower of Zamzam http://www.zamzamtower.com/ar/ ![[Image: location.gif]](http://www.zamzamtower.com/ar/images/location.gif) ![[Image: s-image4.jpg]](http://www.zamzamtower.com/ar/images/s-image4.jpg) ![[Image: s-image3.jpg]](http://www.zamzamtower.com/ar/images/s-image3.jpg) http://www.makkah-development.gov.sa/hcm.../2-3-1.htm The above need translation As u see they started and any one can buy this from any nationality for a certain period of time in a year benefiting from it up to 25 years. So they are working on it and dont forget that doing such a thing will take a lot of effort and time and money. We must be patient, and if we did not benifit form it Insha'Allah the next generation will ![[Image: smile.gif]](http://www.islamsms.com/bb/html/emoticons/smile.gif) There is the english site for those who don't speak arabic Quote: Bismillah The khutbas in Mekka and Madinah always talk about Jihad, maybe he/she does not understand Arabic ![[Image: rolleyes.gif]](http://www.islamsms.com/bb/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif) .Wasalam |
| Posted by Muslimah - 02-07-2005, 01:56 PM |
Quote: Bismillah Bismillah as salam alykom that is what I was trying to tell Rehmat but as usual he took the conversation to another aspect of not allowing Khutbas calling for Jihad, it seems that he/she likes just to raise points in disagreement. I wonder if he /she ever attended a Khubta at any of the sacred masjeds. I tried looking for links to khutbas of many in which Sobhan Allah the Imams used to get very hot to the limit of openly cursing Jews and other aggressors against Muslims every where. Then thought to just get out of the argument in the name of Allah |
| Posted by Rehmat - 02-07-2005, 12:38 AM |
Quote:<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="2408" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> ..To cater for the increasing numbers of hajjis, why do the Saudis not knock down the near-by hotels and re-build them further away so more pilgrims can be catered for?</div></blockquote> <b>Asslam-o-Aliakum</b> Here is my proposal, which was published in a Muslim magazine a long time ago. The Suadi and the native country make sure that a person who has performed Hajj once - he should not be issued a visa to enter Saudi Arabi during Hajj period. He can visit for Umrah later on, if he wishes - or he may pay expenses for a poor person to perform Hajj - and I am sure he would still get the Hajj reward. The results of a survey taken by MSA in 1980s that 67% of the people performing Hajj had already done it once, twice, or three times. I personally know three persons who have performed Hajj more than six times. My proposed restriction would not only lessen the burden on the Hujaj, but the Saudi government can also improve their services. NO, Saudi Royals are not <b>Custodians of the two sacred places</b>. They took this title on the advice of their British sponsors to fool the Muslim Ummah. |
| Posted by Deen - 02-06-2005, 04:16 PM |
Quote: Assalamu aleikum, Wassalaam, To cater for the increasing numbers of hajjis, why do the Saudis not knock down the near-by hotels and re-build them further away so more pilgrims can be catered for? I feel the Saudis "bend over backwards" at time of hajj so they can make the ummah realise that they are the custodians of the two masjids, even though they bought blood to the 2 masajids! |
| Posted by radiyah - 02-03-2005, 05:58 PM |
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Bismillah Sobhan Allah, I really hate such accusations, I went to Hajj last year and everything was okay, and the rituals we did were according to Quran and Sunna, and everybody there were so friendly, I really dont know where does Rehmat brings his ideas from, the saudi governement did all facilities possible for the hujjaj, and it did not prevent any from staying more or coming earlier, there are people who go to hajj starting from after ramadan and they stay there for 3 months and the saudi governement gives them the visa for that, and every year after the ending of the hajj season, they start making plans for rennovation and more facilities for next year to ease hajj on pilgrimige. many hujjaj come alone without a group, and they sleep in the streets and the saudi governement does not prevent them from that, i saw them and passed by many, they are even helped and given food and medication, and it does its best to help them, so it is there fault if they are not served well or dont have good accomodations. What I know that if I have enough money to go then okay, I will, if not then why should I go and throw myself into Tahluka, that is what many are doing, but still the saudi's are accepting them and not refusing their entrance. How they came to rule is another issue, and what they are doing to serve the hujjaj is another thing, and judging them should be left to Allah and not to us human beings. Wasalam |
| Posted by Muslimah - 01-24-2005, 08:38 AM |
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Bismillah as salam alykom In case u missed it sisters http://www.islamsms.com/bb/index.php?a...=36&t=2458&st=0 full english manual to Haj Insh a Allah u may even print out and distribute around your local masjeds |
| Posted by umm Zachariah - 01-14-2005, 04:53 PM |
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Assalamu aleikum, What you write Honeycomb makes so much sense. It IS understandable that not all pilgrims can come at one time. Alhamdulillah we are sooooo many ![[Image: biggrin.gif]](http://www.islamsms.com/bb/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) .So it has to be organized also to give safety and to have accomodations for them who do come. Insha'Allah you and all others going to Mecca to fulfill the 5th pillar of Islam will have an accepted and successful Hajj. Wasalam |
| Posted by honeycomb - 01-14-2005, 03:38 PM |
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i can't help but feel uneasy... but, don't you think such sentiments will cause the disunity of the ummah? i long to go for hajj too, i'm in a waiting list -- 3 years more, insya Allah. i can understand the long wait, as obviously millions & milions of Muslims around the world want to do hajj too... so to accomodate all of them at one time, the limited area might not be possible. it might even be dangerous -- stampeding / suffocation can occur (as in the past have). so I believe the Saudis are just protecting the pilgrims' safety, in a way... so that's why people can't go as they like. they will have to go by stages, systematically to serve all muslims worldwide... i think that's understandable. & i understand why if the Saudis want pilgrims enter late & leave early (if that's the case), coz most governments & nations are careful of foreigners in the land. a sudden influx of foreigners, in a long period of time, without control might cause some diplomatic & immigration issues i think. i believe they have their credible reason. but when pilgrims too have credible reason to stay much later, usually the Saudi will let them stay. i've heard cases of it. i once worked at LTH, a financial institution mainly to provide systematic service from hajj pilgrims in my country. the ppl are mostly excited to perform hajj, & never heard such complaints before... most go happily, wanting to seek Allah's Forgiveness; & they do the Hajj rituals, guided by clerics. i heard a lecture once, the clerics said there in Mecca, yes, u'll see many people doing many ways of rituals -- most ppl think it's the different mazhab. but the cleric said, there's no such thing, & tell what is right & wrong to do -- following the Quran & Sunnah. basically, i myself don't know much how to do hajj, (it's gonna be my first time) -- so i just try to learn & also depend on my family (who had performed hajj) & the cleric's guidance. the clerics are very experienced in hajj, as they guide & take care of the pilgrim groups all through hajj mostly every year. so I trust Allah to be in safe hands & guidance. whatever, maybe best to seek refuge & guidance from Allah, i think. & yes, it's true pilgrims under hajj institutions do have better facilities than people who go on their own selves, but that's just because they go in a very large group... the resources are pooled, so people share & can afford the accomodations together. if other pilgrims want the same, they can. just be pro-active & pool the resources -- design a financial-institution to serve for a systematic hajj in ur country & ur all set, insya Allah. & i believe the Guidance of Allah will Guide if we ask, insya Allah. if I do something wrong, I hope He'll Guide me & muslim friends... i hope u & every pilgrims & me will have a Hajj Mabrur.. |
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