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Your Message: Smilies [get more]	[quote="Muslimah" pid='13853' dateline='1102916791'] Bismillah as salam alykom Intuition I knew it was there but didnt want 2 sort of say that directly [img]http://www.islamsms.com/bb/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif[/img] as I said it was under bathing. I understand about the husband issue Sobhan Allah just moments make things different. [img]http://www.islamsms.com/bb/html/emoticons/sad.gif[/img] [/quote]
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Posted by radiyah - 10-16-2008, 06:52 AM

Bismillah And where is Nasra, we haven't seen her for a long time, we miss her :wub: Salam

Posted by Muslimah - 12-29-2004, 06:46 AM

Bismillah as salam alykom HC Actually I have no idea about this situation but we might all check Inna lillah wa inna elayhee rajeoun

Posted by honeycomb - 12-29-2004, 05:41 AM

Assalamu'alaikum W.B.T. what's sad is after the current Asian Tsunami tragedy, some parts that's mostly hit now saw thousands of the dead lay everywhere, decomposing with heavy stench. incapable to give a descent funeral for all the many victims, i saw on TV they shoved them into a big mass grave with a bulldozer. a local said, this isn't a descent funeral, it's like burying thrash... it's so sad... but because of the stench, & fear of disease, they had to bury them quickly... if you know, what does islam say on this?

Posted by Muslimah - 12-13-2004, 05:46 AM

Bismillah as salam alykom Intuition I knew it was there but didnt want 2 sort of say that directly as I said it was under bathing. I understand about the husband issue Sobhan Allah just moments make things different.

Posted by NaSra - 12-12-2004, 07:42 AM

Asalamalaykum Dearest Muslimah Jezekelah khayr for looking into what I asked about, I know your not the kind of person who ignores people ya muslimah. I actually read through everything you posted , lucky me I found the answers in your post. here are the answers: <b>10. In case of a female, a woman who is very closely related to her should give bath to her dead body. If she is unable to do so, then some other pious and religious woman should do it.</b> 8. A wife is allowed to give bath and shroud her dead husband, but if the wife dies then the husband is not allowed even to touch her body. However, he can see her after death and touch her with a covered hand. See I didn't even know this, alhamdulilah. Or else I would select my husband to be the first person to wash me. Alhamdulilah for learning

Posted by Muslimah - 12-11-2004, 01:47 PM

Bismillah as salam alykom Nasrah I check fiqh assunah and found out one hadeeth stating to seek trusted Muslims for the process of ghusl. Also according to a will model I remember looking at it is for one to state in the will who he/she would like to have for this step. Like one can identify someone in particular for this.

Posted by Muslimah - 11-20-2004, 01:47 PM

Bismillah as salam alykom Intuition I didnt ignore or forget your question, what I know is that there is a chain of who to wash. To be sure I will look into the arabic fiqh sunnah I have and translate it for u Insh a Allah, because the english online does not have this part

Posted by Muslimah - 11-20-2004, 01:33 PM

<b>Funeral: Miscellaneous</b> 1. If one forgets to place the deceased towards the qiblah when burying him and only remembers this afterwards, then it is not permissible to dig up the grave. However, if before putting the soil one remembers then it will be permissible to place him towards the qiblah. 2. It is makruh-e-tahrimi for women to accompany the Janaazah. 3. It is prohibited for wailing women and those women who give lectures to accompany the Janaazah. 4. It is a bid’ah to give the adhaan while lowering the deceased into the grave. 5. If the imam makes more than four takberaat in the Janaazah salaat, it is not permissible for the muqtadis to follow him. Instead, they should remain standing silently. When the imam makes the salaam, they should also make salaam. However, if they do not hear the extra takberaat from the imam, but from the mukabbir then the muqtadis should follow him and regard each takbeer as the takbeer-e-tahreemah. They should think that the extra takberaat which the mukabbir had made were his mistake and that the imam only made only the four wajib takbiraat. 6. If a person passes away in a ship and the coast is so far away that there is a fear that the corpse will begin to decompose, then in such a case ghusl and kafan should be given to him and thereafter he should be lowered into the sea. But if the coast is not so far and there is hope of reaching land soon, the corpse should be left aside and upon reaching land, it should be buried in the ground. 7. If a person does not know the dua that is recited in the Janaazah salaat, it is sufficient for him to recite the following dua: Allahum-maghfir lil-mumineena wal muminat If he does not even remember this and only suffices with the four takberaat, his salaat will be valid. This is because the dua is not fard but sunnah. In the same way, the durood is also sunnah. 8. Once sand has been thrown over the grave, it is not permissible to remove the deceased from the grave. However, if in burying him, the right of someone has been transgressed, then it will be permissible to dig up the grave. Examples: (i) the land on which he is buried belongs to someone else and the owner is not happy about the burial taking place on his land, (ii) someone’s wealth has been left behind in the grave. 9. If a woman passes away and there is a living child in her womb, then her womb will have to be cut and the child removed. Similarly, if a person passes away after swallowing someone else’s money, and the person asks for the money, his stomach will be cut and the money removed. However, if the deceased has left behind some wealth, this money will have to be given from his wealth and his stomach will not be cut. 10. It is not good to move the corpse from one place to another for the purpose of burial. The burial should take place in the nearest Muslim-owned graveyard or in a Muslim-owned graveyard that is within 2-3 kilometers, if there are more than one Muslim-owned graveyards in the vicinity. Digging up the grave and moving the corpse from one place to another is not permissible under any circumstances. 11. It is permissible to praise the deceased person irrespective of whether it is in the form of a poem or in prose. This is on condition that there is no exaggeration in praising him, and he is not praised for characteristics that were not found in him. 12. It is permissible to do the following: sympathize and comfort the relatives of the deceased, to mention the virtues of patience and thereby create an inclination towards patience to make dua for them and the deceased. All this is known as ta’ziyat (condolence). It is makruh-e-tanzihi to make ta’ziyat for more than three days. However, if the person making the ta’ziyat, or a relative of the deceased, was away on a journey and returned after the stipulated three days, then this ta’ziyat will not be makruh. It is makruh for a person to make ta’ziyat for a second time when he has already made it before. 13. It is not makruh to keep the kafan ready for oneself. However, it is makruh to keep the grave ready for oneself. 14.. It is mustahab to place a green twig on the grave. If a plant or tree begins to grow near it, it will be makruh to chop it off. 15. More than one corpse should not be buried in one grave. However, this will be permissible if there is an absolute necessity for it. If all the corpses are males, the most virtuous among them should be placed in the front. Thereafter, all the rest should be placed behind him in order of their position. However, if there are a few males and a few females, the males should be placed in front and the females behind them. 16. It is mustahab for men to go and visit the graves. It is preferable to visit the graves at least once a week. It is preferable that this day be Friday. It is also permissible to undertake journeys in order to visit the graves of the pious. This is permissible as long as no belief or action contrary to the Shariah takes place.

Posted by Muslimah - 11-20-2004, 01:32 PM

<b>Funeral: Burial</b> 1. It is fard-e-kifaayah (collective obligation) to bury the deceased just as it is fard-e-kifaayah to give him ghusl and offer salaat over him. 2. Once salaat is offered over the deceased, he should immediately be carried to the grave which has been dug up for him. 3. If the deceased is a small baby or a young child, he should be carried by hand, i.e. one person should carry him with both his hands and thereafter pass him over to the next person. In this way, he should be continuously carried from person to person. If the deceased cannot be carried easily by one person, he should be placed and carried on a cot or something similar to it. It should be carried by four persons, one at each corner. This cot should be lifted and placed on the shoulders. However, it is makruh to carry it on the shoulders in such a way as one carries luggage on one’s shoulders. Similarly, it is also makruh to take the deceased by placing him on an animal or vehicle without any valid excuse. If there is a valid reason, it will not be makruh to do so, e.g. the graveyard is very far. 4. The mustahab method of carrying the deceased is as follows: Four persons should lift the cot/box initially. Subsequently everyone should begin lifting from the front right corner of the bier by placing it on his right shoulder and then walk for at least ten steps. Thereafter move back and place the back right corner of the bier onto the right shoulder and walk for at least ten steps. Thereafter, place the front left corner of the bier onto the left shoulder and walk for at least ten steps. Thereafter move back and place the left back corner onto the left shoulder and walk for at least ten steps. In this way one would have walked at least forty steps when all four corners have been carried. 5. It is sunnah to walk briskly when carrying the bier. But it should not be so fast that it causes the deceased to move. 6. It is makruh for those who accompany the Janaazah to sit down before the bier is placed onto the ground. However, there is no harm in sitting down if there is some dire necessity. 7. If those who have not been accompanying the Janaazah are sitting somewhere then upon seeing the Janaazah they should not stand up. 8. It is mustahab for those who are accompanying the Janaazah to walk behind the bier. However, there is no harm in walking ahead of the bier. This will become makruh if everyone begins walking in front of the bier. Similarly it is makruh to move in front of the bier while in a vehicle. 9. It is mustahab for those accompanying the Janaazah to go on foot. If they are in any vehicle, they should move behind the bier. 10. It is makruh for those accompanying the Janaazah to make any dua or zikr in a loud voice. Grave and burial 11. The grave for a Muslim should be in a Muslim-owned graveyard. The depth of the grave should be at least half the height of the person. It should not be more than his height. The length of the grave should be according to his height. The incised-grave (lahed) is better than the trench-grave. However, if the ground is very soft and there is a fear of the grave collapsing or for any other valid reason, instead of the incised-grave a trench-grave should be dug. 12. If for some valid reason the incised-grave cannot be dug and there is valid difficulty or hindrance in digging a trench-grave, it is also permissible to place the deceased in a box irrespective of whether the box is of wood, stone or steel. However, it is preferable to spread some sand in the bottom of the box. 13. Once the grave is ready, the deceased should be lowered into the grave from the direction of the qiblah. The method of this is that the deceased should be placed towards the qiblah, and those who are going to lower him should stand facing the qiblah. They should then lift the deceased and lower him into the grave. 14. It is not sunnah to have an odd number of people to place the deceased into the grave. Four people had lowered Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam into his grave. 15. At the time of placing the deceased, it is mustahab to recite: (Bismillahe-wa-alaa-millat-e-Rasoolillah) 16. After placing the deceased into the grave. it is mustahab to turn him with his right side facing the qiblah. 17. After placing the deceased into the grave. untie the strings on both ends of the kafan. 18. The deceased should then be covered with sand, unbaked bricks or straw. It is makruh to cover him with baked bricks or strips of timber. However, if the ground is very soft and there is a fear of the grave collapsing, it will be permissible to place baked bricks or strips of timber, or even to place him into a box. 19. At the time of placing a woman in the grave, it is mustahab to cover the grave with a sheet. If there is a fear that the body of the deceased will get exposed, it will be wajib to cover the grave with a sheet. 20. Covering the grave with a sheet should not be done when placing a man in the grave. But if there is an excuse. e.g. it is raining or snowing or the sun’s rays are very intense, then it will be permissible to do so. 21. Once the deceased has been placed in the grave. whatever soil that came out when digging that grave should be replaced into it. It is makruh to put too much of extra soil to the extent that it is more than one span in height. But if it is not too much, it will not be makruh. 22. It is mustahab to start from the head side when throwing sand over the grave. Each person should throw the soil with both his hands. The first time when he throws, he should say: (Minha_ khalaqna_kum) the second time he should say: (wa fiha_ nu’idukum) and the third time he should say: (wa minha_ nukhrijukum ta_ratan ukhra) (Qur’an, 20:55) 23. After the burial, it is mustahab to stand near the grave for a little while, make dua of forgiveness for the deceased, or to recite the Qur’an and send the rewards of this to the deceased. 24. After covering the grave with soil, it is mustahab to sprinkle a little water over it. 25. The deceased should not be buried in a house irrespective of his status. This is because this is a specialty of the prophets alayhimus salaam to be buried in their houses. 26. It is makruh to make a square grave. It is mustahab to have it in a mound, like the shape of a camel’s back. Its height should be equal to one span or slightly higher. 27. It is makruh-e-tahrimi to have the grave very much higher than one span. It is makruh to plaster or cement the grave. 28. It is haraam (forbidden) to construct a dome over the grave for the purpose of decoration. If this is done in order to strengthen the grave, even then it will be makruh. It is permissible to write something on the grave of the deceased as a means of demarcation. This is on the condition that there is some necessity, if not, it will not be permissible. But these days, since people have corrupted their beliefs and habits, then due to these harms even those things that are permissible become forbidden. Therefore, things of this sort will not be permissible in any way. Whatever needs or excuses they may offer are nothing but a delusion of their desires, and they themselves know this.

Posted by Muslimah - 10-26-2004, 12:29 PM

Bismillah wa alykom as salam Intution O Sobhan Allah u have cold, may Allah Heal u fast. It should be under bath. If not, in all cases I am Insh a Allah posting this step by step to give people a chance to learn. It is important info for all of us to learn.

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